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[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago

Wait, you're telling me I can draw Batman x Superman porn in 10 years and sell it?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Ah, but they'll lobby harder. Batman will enter the public domain in 2,635.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

People said that for years before Mickey entered public domain. It didn't happen.

[–] AEsheron 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah, they had shifted for a Trademark strategy a few years before it happened. It was pretty clear they weren't interested in making it happen again, or had finally got pushback from the folks they donated to about it, or something. And if Disney decided to drop it, I don't think WB, with less than half the cash, will decide to try it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Donald Duck is gonna be fire, I just know it.

Also, Disney has no rights to Snow White, they merely own the 7 very specificly named dwarves.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Stringy, Stingy, Stinky, Stampy, Strapping, Stressful, and Stephen Colbert

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Strapping the real odd man out tbh

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

They are already public domain here ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I expect a flood of Popeye content in 2025 motherfuckers

[–] [email protected] 107 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Copyright terms are so fucking stupid. Imagine getting into trouble for using Popeye. Make it the same as a patent duration and be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago

Fuck Disney and congress for extending copyright protections to near infinity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

I agree with copyright in a sense that people should have a chance to profit from their ideas before it gets stolen, but you are right that it is way too long of a term. It stymies creativity when people can milk the same idea for many decades.

I would think for creative license like an idea for a cartoon or comic, 10-20 years is more than enough. Then they should try and make new characters or start competing with others trying to improve the character.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can really see how invested the copyright owners were to get such long durations.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

"I'm not saying that's how it should be. I'm saying that's how it is."

- Tom Scott, 2020

YouTube's copyright system isn't broken. The world's is. (43 minutes long, but worth a watch)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like it should be the life time of the creator of the work provided that person is still getting a significant percentage of the royalties. Otherwise something like 20 years.

That way companies might be less likely to force artists to sign away all rights to their work. So like "hey this kid could live another 50 years, so lets make sure he gets his percentage so we can keep control longer."

[–] Couldbealeotard 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How would that work for anything produced by a company? If you're a continuing run of stories, and a random artist dies, copyright on parts of your product suddenly evaporate? Getting a job as an artist would be like making an insurance claim: with a risk assessment. Good luck getting work as you get older or sick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Why would a copyright entering public domain cause a problem with your product? Public domain doesn't mean you can't use a work anymore, more the opposite really.

And they'd still get 20 years for a work made by a 90 year with a terminal illness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Could companies not also say "hey, this kid could live another 50 years, let's kill them soon so their work will be in the public domain and we can profit from it"? Or would companies not want the work in the public domain?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That would be first degree murder, which is kinda illegal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How's that working out for Boeing?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Too early to tell right now.

[–] Heavybell 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I dunno what the patent duration is, but copyright should probably just be 50 years max IMO. If you can't make bank in that time without changing the idea up (and thus getting 50 years on the new version) you don't deserve it.

[–] gerbler 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Originally I think it was closer to 20 years. Frankly I think 25 years is plenty. A quarter century is enough time to reward the creator of an IP and it respects the fact that all IP is built on top of the public domain so it's return is a natural part of the cycle.

[–] Heavybell 3 points 6 days ago

In any case it's not like after it expires you could not trade on being the original. It's not like others could then come along and claim to have been the original creator. And if you kept making works those would each get their own period of copyright.

[–] Thcdenton 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude the superman and batman stuff is gonna be nuts

[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whoa! That's illegal buddy. In more ways than one...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

THERE ARE NO LAWS ON THE MOON, BATMAN!

[–] Thcdenton 7 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Snow White and the seven dwarves are 200 years old and already in the public domain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

The stories are, but not the characters as drawn by Disney, it's like classic music, you can use the Music commercially (given that you Perform I), but you can't use a performance from someone else.

Same with classic stories, you can make your own snow white story, but you can't use snow white as performed by Disney (yet)

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I want all of them to live together in one big house, reality TV style!!

... it appears there are mockups:

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Already working on a Bambi: First Blood movie.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

How about a sequel to Bambi meets Godzilla?

[–] paraphrand 18 points 1 week ago

A timeline of shit horror movies.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wonder if this will herald an era of more original content and less of all this reusing of stuff all the time.

[–] NABDad 20 points 1 week ago

Apparently it will herald an era of crappy horror movies.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Copyright should be 14 years.

[–] ChicoSuave 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] glimse 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I appreciate you posting here often but this is not a data visualization. This is just a graphic with dates on it

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I see it as a way of visually presenting (character, year) data points.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago

*in the US and some other countries. Not worldwide

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

[email protected] Surprised there isn't more stuff with Winnie Pooh considering he's in the public domain, pretty interesting graph tho

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Can't make any money off Winnie the Pooh content in China... for reasons.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Bold of this graph to assume this society will last that long

[–] xantoxis 7 points 1 week ago

Aw, I was thinking I'm gonna become the Joker. Now I gotta wait.

[–] Beetschnapps 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Basically “NO”

There is no example of fair use in this illustration. There is no real expiration.

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