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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/android
 

With every version of Android it seems to be harder and harder to get real time notifications anywhere near real time.

Twitch notifications, Signal, WhatsApp, I often get these ten to thirty minutes too late.

I've excluded them from battery optimisation but that doesn't seem to do anything. And I can't find anything else.

I don't care about battery usage. I'm always near a charger.

Android 13 on a Fairphone 3.

Edit: I've disabled DOZE according to https://stackoverflow.com/questions/40204605/android-completely-disabling-deviceidle-doze-in-android-m Hopefully that helps.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

FWIW, this is not normal or expected, most users get their notifications more or less instantaneously. Maybe knowing this might help you search for information about whatever it may be that prevents this from working for you.

[–] WIPocket 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you use Google Play Services or is that a deGoogled Android 13?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm ashamed to admit that I use Google Play Services.

[–] WIPocket 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In that case, is Google Play Services allowed to run in the background / unrestricted / whatever? It is the means to delivering notifications for most apps.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, I couldn't even restrict it if I wanted to.

Might that work better with a degoogled OS?

[–] WIPocket 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly, no. Whenever I see late notifications its usually on a degoogled phone, so this was just my first guess. Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Agreed. I'd factory reset and see whether it improves things.

Under certain circumstances it's possible that the service is getting killed due to lack of memory, but the FP3 has 4GB of RAM so that shouldn't be happening. One could probably diagnose it with a detailed logcat. Unfortunately I don't have the bandwidth to help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Honestly, no. Whenever I see late notifications its usually on a degoogled phone

Usually, yes. But there is one exception: GrapheneOS. Since it allows you to use Sandboxed Google Play services, notifications work just like on any other Android device, you just need to disable battery optimization for Play services. But unfortunately it is only compatible with Google Pixel devices.

[–] WIPocket 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How is that an exception? Sure, it is sandboxed, but I really do not consider that "degoogled".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The OS itself is degoogled by default, but it has a reliable and officially supported option for adding Google services, if you need them.

[–] WIPocket 1 points 1 week ago

Yea, I know, I use it myself. My point is that it is no longer degoogled once you regoogle it.

[–] K1nsey6 5 points 1 week ago

I would do a factory reset. All my notifications are near instant

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Apply the steps on https://dontkillmyapp.com/ to Google Play Services and Google Play Messaging, that may help. Also check if you have an app running in the background that eats all of your RAM and forces the OS to clear up scheduleable tasks.

Thirty minutes is way longer of a delay than I've ever seen. You may want to try a factory reset in case it's a ROM issue. Fairphone has had its ups and downs over the years when it comes to the built in software.

[–] bokherif 1 points 1 week ago

What brand are you using? Never had this issue with Pixels or Samsungs.