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Israel killed at least 274 Palestinians at the Nuseirat refugee camp during an operation to retrieve 4 Israeli captives.

The Biden administration applauded the massacre at Nuseirat refugee camp. While Western media frame this ‘rescue mission’ as a success, remember that Israel rejected multiple ceasefire agreements, including a recent three-phase plan in which all of the remaining Israeli captives would be released. In the last 8 months,

Israel killed more than 37,000 Palestinians.

Its goal has always been to destroy Gaza.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Didn't Isreal say they don't intend to free the hostages, just to destroy hamas a while back?

[–] merthyr1831 4 points 6 months ago

Well they did prove the first half of that considering they killed 3 hostages in this daring PR operation.

[–] merthyr1831 6 points 6 months ago

This doesn't even include the 3 alleged Israeli captives killed by the IOF's so-called "rescue" operation. Not sure what rescue op gets called a success when it kills a bunch of collateral bystanders AND half of your hostages.

[–] Eheran 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why are there hostages in a refugee camp to begin with?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Because human shields are worth more than refugees to hamas. Same reason they build bases at schools and hospitals. Then they get to double dip media coverage and feign outrage when they get raided and innocents die.

[–] merthyr1831 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The IDF consistently uses civilian infrastructure for military bases, whether it's in Gaza or across their entire Northern border.

But typical Zionist users on this app like to pretend that "muh human shields" was always a bullshit argument designed to give Israel cover to massacre thousands of children because they know useful idiots like you will parrot it after the fact.

And even if this was an evil Hamas trick, all it proves again is that Israel has chosen to kill civilians as collateral, including its own hostages, instead of accepting multiple peace deals offered by Hamas in good faith.

Log the fuck off, Zionist scum.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nowhere in my post did I defend Israel. Calling out one side for being horrible doesnt mean I support the other side who is also horrible. But, IDF killing civilians because said civilians are attempting to hide terrorists inside civilian locations is not something I can fault Israel for. Both sides are wrong and both sides deserve to be glass to hell and the territory set up as a monument to human stupidity.

You also seem to be a massive piece of human garbage that is not worth interacting with. Your entire post history is like a playbook of the mentally deranged. So maybe you should also log the fuck off.

[–] merthyr1831 -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Why is there a refugee camp to begin with?

Free hint: This camp existed before October 2023!

[–] Eheran 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that it becomes a legit target the moment Hamas is there. All the innocent civilians can be labeled as collateral damage. That is a massive issue.

[–] nandeEbisu 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's not how international law works.

[–] Eheran 1 points 6 months ago

How does it work? If it were a legit strategy to put civilians around your military (or the other way around), Russia would do it already. But that is not the case.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I gotta say, if you're reporting on israeli atrocities and shoehorn in biden then i side eye the fuck out of you.

[–] merthyr1831 2 points 6 months ago

He sent the bombs lmao.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Biden is supporting the genocide as well as the duopoly.

That is why they call him, 'Genocide Joe'.

[–] JustZ 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

They call him that because they want to reelect Trump and don't know enough about politics to know better.

[–] merthyr1831 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"They" call him that because he's directly aiding and abetting a genocide you soulless fucking ghoul.

[–] JustZ 1 points 6 months ago

Nah. He doesn't see it that way and neither do I.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I would say it would be the opposite.

People just believe the duopoly and their propaganda, while some are waking up to the reality of our system.

[–] zeppo 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well reasonable observers would say you 're a fucking shill.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

shill

We just have different world views.

I would be careful on just labeling all people who do not think or agree with your way of thinking, as a way to simply dismiss them; questioning and being critical of our own bias is much healthier even if it is hard to do.

Life of a reformism vs revolutionary.

Careful on name calling, communities have rules, you might get banned, and your helpful and informative comments may get removed.

[–] zeppo 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh my! Thanks for the veiled threat and useless and clueless advice.

Being factually and strategically wrong is objective, not a matter of opinion. Your contributions are harmful to Lemmy and to society. I can't figure out whether you're naive or malicious.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That was not meant to be a theeat.

Reread rules for community, please.

It is okay to have stong emotions, have a good day!

[–] zeppo 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

okay, it's your community, you're the mod. Sorry for fucking with you.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All is good!

I need to be reminded as well, I appreciate when people take the time to directly tell me, thank you for being critical of my way of thinking!

[–] zeppo 2 points 6 months ago

Well, I disagree with some things but you're very patient, mature and polite, so thanks for that.

[–] RandomGuy79 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No you're just dumb enough to think you're intellectually and morally superior to those dirty zionists and so THATS why you'll re elect trump. Yall got played

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Your name calling is not civil.

I would implore you to question your wording.

The duopoly will not help the working class people, we must move on from them.

[–] RandomGuy79 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Look here man. Re elect him. Do it you deserve what comes

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 1 points 6 months ago

I don't have to do anything, it will happen due to the failings of the duopoly, on purpose.

More wars for profit will continue if people keep voting for the status quo and their lies.

No War but Class War!

[–] zeppo -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sure, plus another possible prequisite or two

  • you’re extremely ignorant about American politics
  • indifferent or supportive of fucking up the US by electing Trump
  • don’t understand our voting system
[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I would say we know and understand American politics too well, as well as other systems outside the western propaganda.

The duopoly still has a hold on the masses, but stay hopeful people are thinking much more criticially, legacy media trust is at a all time low.

[–] RandomGuy79 1 points 6 months ago

The royal we ok lmao you are a REVOLUTIONARY

[–] zeppo 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"We"? Is that a royal we?

It's yawn, another 'leftist' who posts against the US government all the time, especially US Democrats - never mentions the fascist Republicans much - and supports Russian perspectives, for some odd reason. Literally apparently an odd reason, because it makes no sense from the alleged principles being upheld.

Anyway, GENERCIDE JOE is a sure sign you're not dealing with someone mature and well-informed. It's either naive, or on purpose.

[–] RandomGuy79 3 points 6 months ago