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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 weeks ago

"By the time it was over, four Israeli hostages had been brought home alive and mostly unscathed, at least physically, and at least 274 Palestinians, and an Israeli commando, had been killed."

Holy shit. What a clusterfuck.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Literally hundreds of civilians killed to rescue 4 hostages. I don't know what happened but I can guarantee we will be hearing more about it.

Not a huge fan of the title but this is breaking news and I think the AP can be trusted to at least get the basics right.

[–] FlyingSquid 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't see a problem with the title. That's literally what happened. It makes no judgments.

[–] Nurse_Robot 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Why are we still using the word "scores"

Edit for the haters: go ask someone tomorrow how much a "score" is. Most people would have to look it up, which makes it inappropriate for a headline where "hundreds" is more appropriate.

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Because "dozens" is less than "scores?"

12 < 20.

What would be better?

[–] Nurse_Robot 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe hundreds?

Scores is such an 1800s word. It's simply not used in today's vernacular, and I'm not sure why you're defending it.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 3 weeks ago

I wasn't defending anything. I literally asked what would be better.

Apparently asking what would be better was bad.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think it feels reminiscent of an explainer and that kind of gives me the ick. Maybe I'm being silly though

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

I can guarantee we will be hearing more about it.

Huh? Ratios of 300 innocents per 1 terrorists killed are now the norm and we are definitely not hearing more about. It gets buried by the next "accident" where by "accident" destroy a hospital/school/refugee camp full of people

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And quite possibly killed three more hostages in the action. Hamas is claiming it and the IDF is denying it. But considering that the four hostages saved were being held in the same place as one of the higher ups, if the IDF has just been bombing every other family home of Hamas members (remember the Where's Daddy AI system?), then it seems quite likely they could kill hostages in the process.

[–] sir_pronoun 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck Hamas for keeping hostages in a refugee camp, though

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yes fuck Hamas, but where else do you keep them? Not like they've got equipped POW camps or secure bunkers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza Strip (AP) — They arrived in the middle of the day, when the squat concrete buildings of the Nuseirat refugee camp are stifling and the narrow streets outside are filled with people.

Hagari declined to say how the Israeli forces made their way to the heart of Nuseirat, a crowded, built-up refugee camp in central Gaza dating back to the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.

Chief Inspector Arnon Zamora, an officer in an elite police commando unit, was mortally wounded during the break-in, in which all the Hamas guards were killed, Amos Harel, a veteran defense correspondent, wrote in Israel’s Haaretz newspaper.

Palestinian militants armed with machine-guns and rocket-propelled grenades opened fire on the rescuers, as Israel called in heavy strikes from land and air to cover their evacuation to the coast.

Mohamed al-Habash, another displaced Palestinian, was in the Nuseirat market looking for humanitarian aid or inexpensive food when the heavy bombing began.

At the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital in the nearby town of Deir al-Balah, the dead and wounded arrived in waves — men, women and children.


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