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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We're the healthiest and smartest generation in the last hundred or so years on average per person, yet due to a variety of systemic factors we're all totally handicapped to producing positive changes towards helping one another let alone many, and it's largely down to our systems being completely shit.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The biggest issue humanity is facing currently is corruption of governments and corporations.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the controversial part of this opinion the fact that it's not controversial at all so that it will create a discussion based on its controversy?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It's controversial merely because he said biggest. I l, and most likely many others, would argue that the bigger problem is the fact that we have introduced so much greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere that life as we are now will be impossible a hundred years from now

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[–] ElectroVagrant 16 points 1 year ago

Society & civilizations are formed & developed to bring us to a state beyond mere survival, and the extent to which a society/civilization fails to uplift & provide for those within it to live fuller lives not preoccupied with surviving is a deep mark against its sociability and civility.

Worse still are those that do not merely fail to do so, but those that actively resist doing so, with some twisted notion of the virtues of survival amid society (see: social Darwinism & related misanthropic ideologies).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

We currently live in a thriving bully culture. Every stupid fucking political issue were focused on is either preventing bullying or encouraging bullying. I think its about time we recognized that a huge percent of humans get a dopamine/feel good boost when they shit on other people. This counts for things as vague and superficial as someones appearance, up to whether or not someone should have rights.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Velcro is fine. It shouldn't just be for kids shoes: shoelaces are like ties: a pointless time waster we should have ditched as soon as we invented velcro.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Based but velcro stops working after a while while laces thend to take more time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I got the velcro on my motorbike boots replaced at a shoe repair shop, a whole €12 to get another couple of years use out of them seemed likes bargain. New boots like them are €150 at least

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Laces wear out over time too. Also, nicer velcro is sold, though I have no idea if it lasts longer.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Velcro doesn't do well with pulling forces over a long period of time, and it doesn't do well with dirt and dust. We would all be adjusting our velcro all the time. Also shoelaces are easier to replace, and can be used to apply pressure to multiple parts of a shoe much easier than velcro. Think about shoes like converse or docs where they need to be held upwards and along the foot and leg shape, it would be very hard and annoying for velcro to do the same.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Pineapple on pizza is okay.

(I have my 9mm beretta, an uzi, a kalishnakov machine gun I picked up in the Congo, 6 grenades, a machete and and broad sword and I'm going up on that hill over there so you come and take me down. C'mon all you motherfuckers try and say otherwise, pizza purist pussies!)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Pineapple fresh jalapenos and pepperoni. Fucking. snaps.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

On Lemmy it's definitely that China is a shitty example of socialist statecraft.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a fucking dumpster fire of a comment section lmao

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[–] Moonguide 11 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Not controversial with politically literate people, but bigots, fascists, racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc., shouldn't get a platform to spew their shit. Public or private, doesn't matter. And any effort by them to acquire one needs to be put down.

It shocked me when my friends pushed back when I explained why Rogan shouldn't have those people on his show with a freeze peach argument. Those people deserve nothing but a sock full of batteries.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That the mental health system in the US is fundamentally broken due to the general attitude toward suicidality. As I understand it, the general and medical view of suicidality is that suicide cannot be allowed under any circumstances. Anyone acting in ways that seem like they could realistically lead to suicide must be stopped, by force if necessary. To this end, not only is it considered morally correct to report suicidal people to the proper authorities, but it is actually mandated in many cases.

This seems perfectly reasonable from the perspective of most people - suicide wreaks terrible havoc on the lives of the people around the victim, after all, on top of the general loss of life. This holds especially true because most suicide attempts are spur-of-the-moment decisions that have not been thought through, and these cases have a very good chance of recovery if they are talked down. As far as I am aware, the majority of people who have been brought back from suicide attempts are grateful for the second chance.

But this leaves a rather large class of people behind, who are in such anguish for one reason or another that suicide seems like the only option. These are not people who kill themselves on a whim - they are people who have considered the ramifications of such an action for sometimes decades. If one of these people determines that suicide is the right choice, this essentially traps them in a space where they can no longer be helped. They cannot reach out to literally anyone, because everyone from their therapist to their friends to their relatives are likely to call in an intervention and involuntarily imprison them in a psychiatric ward. And even worse - these people do this in a genuine attempt to help, completely unaware of the paradox this creates.

To someone of this mindset, evoking an intervention of that nature is simply not an option. If one is in such pain that suicide seems like the only escape, then removing that escape is by definition worse than a death sentence. It seems a special kind of cruelty, the last remaining thing the world can do to ensure you feel every last second of this pain it has in store for you. To these people, their autonomy is often the very last thing they have left, and it is incredibly precious.

And so, the only route left is to suffer in silence, slowly regressing until the day they actually kill themselves. After a certain threshold where speaking about their mental state risks imprisonment, they are effectively already lost - because even if something could still be done to help them, the perceived risk is too high to ever reach for it.

I was in such a state for many years, and was lucky enough to be able to return on my own to a level where I feel 'eligible for mental help' again. However, I feel as if most people who reach that level are not so fortunate, and it twists my heart to know what we are inadvertently inflicting upon these poor, invisible people. There has to be a better way to approach this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just look at Canada's scandals around MAID and you'll see why allowing it can lead to severe problems including inconvenient people being pressured into choosing suicide.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Granted, I fully acknowledge that. I don't think having state-sponsored suicide is the answer either, just that people need to be able to discuss their feelings freely somehow.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Representative Democracies have failed (are failing) like all other political ruling systems have failed so far. Some failed just faster than others that failed more catastrophically while some fail silently (agonizing). In the end all systems failed.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sometimes victim blaming is valid. We as people can take mitigating actions to avoid trouble. And a lot of people just don't.

E.g. people who don't look before crossing a road at crosswalks. It's the vehicles fault for hitting you. But you could have easily prevented it by having a modicum of self-preservation

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah I mostly agree with this. Like, sometimes a victim can cause something to happen without deserving the outcome. Nobody deserves to be mauled by a lion, but jumping into a lion cage will cause that to happen, and I won't feel bad for you.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whether you stand on the left or the right, the two party system essentially produces a trend where both parties walks lock step in the same direction, if your in group A and you screw up at life, group B can pay to subsidize your mistakes.

Replace group A or B with whatever class or caste label you believe your in according to Marxist theory and you've got the end result of the two party system right there.

Can't wait to donate to an actual party policy rather than just a party with some beers, virtue signalling placards and rainbow flags

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Using toilet paper instead of a bidet of some sort is absolutely disgusting and anyone who uses exclusively toilet paper is pretty gross.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

other than a few Nazis and etc, most of these opinions don't seem that controversial.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That the human brain hardware has not evolved in the past 2000 years, and classical religions are by far not the only means to induce entire populations (spanning multiple nations and continents) into believing false things. Modern advertising symbolism is often the new religion that motivates the mind, and people do not demonstrate nearly enough self-awareness of the side-effects of peer pressure induced by modern marketing/advertising. We are in an increasing race to the bottom of the flaws of the human brain that was never prepared for recording and unlimited playback of images, sounds, motion video, etc. All of humanity is under threat, and Carl Sagan's 1995 book calls this out, among others, such as Neil Postman's 1985 book Amusing Ourselves to Death. Trickle Down Economics may be a bullshit deception, but Trickle Down Memes and Symbols are very real, and we are entering another Dark Ages, this time planet-wide.

“Finnegans Wake is the greatest guidebook to media study ever fashioned by man.” - Marshall McLuhan, Newsweek Magazine, page 56, February 28, 1966.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're being bullied for believing that we shouldn't accept other cultures and we should accept other cultures instead. You immigrate in my country? You're learning my language, my culture. Not vica versa.

I didn't get in your country, you did. It's not your action that lead you to that point.

I mean, think of it like somebody gets in your family's home, and suddenly you have to adjust to their standards, not vica versa. Isn't that weird?

Why do we not do the same for countries? Because ""we're empathetic""? No we're not empathetic, our governments just want cheap, illegal labor. Which means, stealing the cheap labor from legal people who already have it in need. Or our children who turned to an age that they can work and can learn basic principles of working.

Look at France right now. Look at Greece, where ~70% of the crimes are committed by non-Greeks. Obviously, coz these people came from a country that either threw them away or from a radical country that they learned to behave like that from there.

The statistics that I made for that are here Statistics - Google sheets

But apparently if you say that, you're racist. No, I dont care about those people. I'm not afraid of those people. I would happily be friends with any of these people. But they're from a different culture, different country, and there can't be no demand to appropriate to THEIR culture. They get in your country, they should appropriate to YOUR culture, not vica versa.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I agreed. Also the mindset that we should adapt to immigrants cultures hurts immigrants more. We should provide education and resources to help them adapt.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Who is forcing you to adjust to their culture? As far as I know, all you have to do is not directly hinder their ability to maintain their own culture in a new place. I think you might be overestimating what is expected of you.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

As a Brazilian, you are forgetting that the reason why "3rd world countries" immigrate to "1st world countries" is because the latter exploited the former as colonies to the max: Brazil, India, Morocco, Senegal, Mexico, list goes on.

1st world countries only could deliver this level of wellbeing to their citizens because some countries were being exploited at the bottom.

When 3rd world citizens watch videos of people of their own country working for Ifood/Uber on the US and making 5x as much due to how shitty their national economy is, the decision to immigrate is obvious. It's really ironic if you think about it that 1st world countries have to pay out of their own pockets to rescue, give food, shelter and pay basic health care for descendants of people their own ancestors exploited

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (23 children)

That gender abolition is the best way forward for society. Really gets both sides all pissy

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Mormons are not Christians nore are any non trinitarian "Christians" like unitarianism.

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