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[–] Rookwood 34 points 3 weeks ago

While this is neat, the person who cares about this is going to keep their car longer than 5 years.

[–] RGB3x3 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

How does the Jeep Wrangler keep it's value so well? I had to rent one last weekend and it may have been the crappiest car I've ever been in. It only had 26k miles on it, and it was the newer hybrid wrangler, but the materials used were crap, the usability was awful, it was so bulky with barely any real space and it was a terrible ride.

On top of that, they're so expensive. Why does anyone buy jeeps?

[–] mean_bean279 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You’re not the target then and you shouldn’t have been in a wrangler. A wrangler is a body on frame, solid front and rear axel vehicle. It’s going to naturally ride like dog shit, and the materials on the interior are shit because they’re made to get dirty and be washed out (literally with a hose) and have the top off with the California sun beating on them 24/7. The usability is awful for the same reason. Everything is water resistant and built for off road use.

Space… well that’s because it’s body on frame. They’ve always been awful at usable interior space due to that.

Lastly, they’re expensive because literally no one else makes a body on frame SUV with a solid rear axel, let alone a solid front too. Those pieces also cost a ton to keep legally on the road and they have to purchase carbon credits just to certify them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Is the G wagon not a body on frame design? I think the Ineos is one too

[–] mean_bean279 5 points 3 weeks ago

G wagen is body on frame, but with IFS. IFS basically completely changes how it handles on road for the better. INEOS is also body on Frame, and solid front and rear. However it starts at like double the cost of a wrangler and is really more of a luxury off road we. Money can solve a lot of problems that a wrangler can’t have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

And the Toyota 4runner, Sequoia and Land Cruiser, the Chevy Tahoe and Suburban, Ford Expedition, Nissan Armada. There's plenty of body on frame SUVs to choose from.

[–] Blaster_M 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

TLDR: It's the only "cheap" off-roader on the US market that is capable of extreme (rock-climbing, open terrain) off-roading activites even in stock form, that and it has a huge aftermarket behind it for making it an even better off-roader.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

It's a shame that the Suzuki Jimny is not available in the US. It is such an amazing offroader.

[–] lettruthout 7 points 3 weeks ago

I dunno. They say it’s “a Jeep thing”.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

People just really love the Jeep Wrangler because 'Merica. Or something, I don't get it either. Even the old ones with their pre-enshitification parts aren't even that reliable and are expensive to maintain. If you like working on your own vehicle as a hobby I guess it's acceptable but otherwise it's like $1000 a month getting the dealer to fix everything.

[–] Blaster_M 20 points 3 weeks ago

Toyota Tacoma 20 years later: still 20% less than MSRP and with 200,000mi on it.

[–] Blaster_M -2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Toyota Tacoma 20 years later: still 20% less than MSRP and with 200,000mi on it.

[–] JeeBaiChow 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ya, we heard you the first time mate!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So nice they said it twice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Damn I want some couscous now

[–] lemming741 1 points 3 weeks ago

They double post when they get a new frame