People could always switch to a privacy friendly web browser.
this post was submitted on 30 May 2024
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afaik it’s not only for google chrome but for chromium in general. so privacy friendly browsers like brave and degoogled chromium are also affected unless they fork the chromium project or something.
Gee, if only there was an option other than Chrome!
In terms of web engine, there are Gecko(Mozilla) and WebKit(Apple) for you to chose from, which isn't that much choice.
I use Mozilla every single day and have done so for about 6 years now. Personally I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything but ads if I don't a Chromium based browser.
I’ve been using Mozilla products for going on 20 years on my windows PCs, and other than websites arbitrarily deciding they don’t work on non chrome browsers, I’ve rarely had issues.
No
Wow, I haven’t used Lynx since the 90s. Admittedly, a text-only browser is an attractive idea.
Apparently it’s still being actively developed! I’m impressed.
April 15, 2024 Lynx v2.9.1 release
Yes, and Mozilla browsers are an viable alternative. What's the issue?
It is viable, just lack diversity in terms of web engine. Web tech today are just too complex to have another web engine. Even Microsoft ditch its EdgeHTML and favor Blink, the engine used by Chromium-based browsers.
But why do you need another one?
Why not?
firefox exists
You already have to fork the chromium project to make Brave and degoogled chromium
Some Chromium browsers like Brave and Vivaldi already announced they'll extend it for as long as they can, and when they no longer can't, they'll think of something else like improve their own blockers.
"controversial", meaning everyone hates it except google
That, or it's super useful but impacts ad revenue so Google hates it.
"older" - privacy respecting
As long as that extension developer can be trusted to have access to read and modify the data of any site you load and to not sell the extension (and its userbase) for a quick buck (see Hover Zoom+ for an example of how much they're willing to offer, as recently as today).
There are definitely trade-offs between the permissions allowed in V2 versus V3. It really depends on where you think the main threat is (websites and online tracking versus extension developers).
Google clearly sees the main threat as extension developers diminishing their ad business.
Manifest V3 was tailor made to fight unblock origin.
You can support V3 without limiting the number of filters! The limit is arbitrarily chosen to block fewer ads
That's true. I know they did increase the number of filters from the initial amount but they really should just make it effectively infinite.
I honestly don't understand why anyone uses chrome or chromium based browsers over Mozilla with privacy plug-ins.
Today at work someone posted in the it slack channel complaining that chrome has auto restarted three times got mandatory updates in the last day wondering if he could get it stopped because it was messing with his work. I’m just over here using the same Firefox instance for months at a time, and even when I have to restart my whole computer it perfectly pulls up my previous session, even distributing the windows across their previous monitors. I never really liked chrome, idk how it caught on so much with people. I’d legit rather use pre-chromium edge, at least it was fast.
I really feel like I‘m visiting two dimensions on lemmy. I really like firefox and I use it daily with no complaints whatsoever. But the amount of people saying „it has only gotten worse recently“ seems to be the same crowd for the last 3 years. Its always on its way down, it gets all his revenue from google bla bla bla. I know thats an issue, using chrome is not the answer.
I prefer the way chrome handles x509 certificates more than Firefox does. It's still not perfect though.
There's a Cadmium SD standing by for action.
All of Google's actions these days are controversial. That's what happens when you're openly hostile towards your customers.