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[–] TheDubz87 37 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well, they said it was a regrettable mistake! A whoopsie! Clearly, they didn't mean to do that, so we should still support them.

Where is the red line? Have we misplaced it?

[–] TallonMetroid 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So long as there are still Palestinians capable of bleeding, the red line will continue to be extended, so of course the IDF hasn't crossed it yet.

Honestly, I don't know why anyone expected any different from a man who proudly declared himself a Zionist.

[–] Chocrates 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think people are just venting. We all feel helpless.
I have no idea what to do that would actually help the people of Gaza. Biden obviously doesn't care. The states brutalized the kids (again). Any money we try to donate will be interdicted becuase "terrorism".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

I hate this part the most. There’s literally no viable way to help, aside from political pressure - which then gets shouted down as ‘bad faith tankie’.

  • The crossing are crippled and capriciously limited by Israel and/or ‘protesters’
  • Airdrops are helping, but barely
  • The floating pier is now out of commission for “at least a week”
  • Direct donations are likely not going to reach needy, but be skimmed or frozen

And all that, just so they can be bombed or starved. Even those who do survive this if/when it ends will be desperately broken people who have endured incredible loss and trauma

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Let's be real, if Israel succeeded in a full genocide of all Palestinians in the region Biden would still be defending them saying they still haven't crossed the red line because Palestinians still exist in our memories.

This shit is unacceptable. Made all the worse that they think they can get away with it simply because of the man they helped put into power. I fucking hate this country.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

It's now if they are dumb enough to nuke Gaza or Iran. Well maybe just Gaza

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Maybe it's wherever Obama put his red line on Syrian chemicals.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And exactly what is that red line?

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago

At all times at least 1 step further than whatever Israel last did

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Well that's a relief!

[–] Lost_My_Mind -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is such a weird war. Both of the governments are shitheads, but citizens of both are just victims all around. You can't "root" for or against either side.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not really. There's a bunch of shitheads among the citizens too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep, normal people don't have parties to watch bombs be dropped on other people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Or have little kids spitting on the raped & mangled corpses of young women.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

That's pretty typical of war, honestly.