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AOC Wants To Be Re-Elected To Defeat Trump/Fascism But Forgets She Abandoned Progressive Voters [16:18 | May 22 24 | Hard Lens Media] (youtu.be)

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[–] retrospectology 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

AOC has not abandoned progressives, wth?

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom 7 points 7 months ago

The truth doesn't matter when you're trying to control the narrative.

[+] jimmydoreisalefty -8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Democrats would agree with you.

People on the left would disagree.

[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As far as I can tell she is doing the best she can within the bullshit system we have.

[+] jimmydoreisalefty -8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

She is the system.

If you try to change the system, from within, the system ends up changing you, not the other way around.

We learned this from the failure of the Justice Democrats... The Squad.

[–] retrospectology 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying she should resign her seat or start a fire on the house floor or something? It doesn't make a lot of sense.

The Squad has failed in the past because there are literally a handful of them. You can't only be obstructionist, we see the limits of that strategy at the opposite end with idiots like Marjorie Green hurting themselves because they're too dumb to understand how to navigate the political landscape, so they just end up out in the cold.

I'd much rather have someone like Ocasio-Cortez leveraging funding and climbing the power structure than have someone who sits there and isolates themselves politically yelling anarcho-communist slogans or w/e.

There's a reason AIPAC is spending millions to unseat progressives, including the squad, and it's not because they see those progressives as "part of the system". It's because they are a threat.

I'm suspicious of your motives here.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty -1 points 7 months ago

I am not saying anything on what AOC should do.

People have mentioned to her face and to the Justice Democrats on what they can do to improve and fight for real change, they do not listen and are already just like all the other status quo Democrats, just looking at their voting record.

I am not a Democrat, I am pretty sure you are a Democrat (and a support of them) so that is where we differ a lot on the way we look at politicians and the gov't as a whole.

I am on the left, Democrats are just Republican-lite, the duopoly does not want change they are for the status quo.

I hope this helps you understand a bit more when it comes to people that are critical of politicians from the left.

Again I am not a part or support the duopoly, I would be to your left or 'far' left.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, let's move the government to the left by singling out the most progressive liberals in office and voting them out for not being liberal enough. Instead we'll vote in far, far right conservatives. Good plan.

I'm suspecting OP is trying to get liberals not to vote.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here is where I explain the political views and differences and why you see it one way while I see it another way:

I am not a Democrat, I am pretty sure you are a Democrat (and support [Democrats]) so that is where we differ a lot on the way we look at politicians and the gov’t as a whole.

I am on the left, Democrats are just Republican-lite, the duopoly does not want change they are for the status quo.

I hope this helps you understand a bit more when it comes to people that are critical of politicians from the left.

Again I am not a part or support the duopoly, I would be to your left or ‘far’ left.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

None of that addresses my comment at all

[–] jimmydoreisalefty 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yes, let’s move the government to the left by singling out the most progressive liberals in office and voting them out for not being liberal enough. Instead we’ll vote in far, far right conservatives. Good plan.

Democrats are not left, they are just Republican-lite, some may spew left tendancies so as to appeal to the working class, but in the end of the day their voting record should be enough to know they are just great actors.

I’m suspecting OP is trying to get liberals not to vote.

If I was to guess, you are the liberal/Democrat here, but I am just sharing a non status quo view so that those only exposed to status quo points may see diverse ideas out of the norm.

I am neither, I am on the left.

I hope this has helped you understand a bit more on my point of view on the topic!

Let us keep talking and learning to people we do not agree with or think like!

Feel free to response with any questions or critics!

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