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I've seen the occasional nonimage post here and didn't know where else to ask this.

On another forum, a downvoter of things, with apparently support from other accounts, revealed that they are downvoting things 'because they have to do with ai'. I have heard from an admin that they have that same problem here.

But when I look it up and try to find a reference for who they are, the closest thing I come up with is Luddite, which refers to people who generally hate technology. I know antifa people are proudly antifa; same with anarchists. But what is this 'anti ai' type of person that seems to have started cropping up? I asked the person directly, but unknown whether they will respond with an accurate reference.

Reminds me of vehement transphobes specifically joining trans communities so they can downvote things; except instead of polar opposite of lgbtq, it is that equivalent except toward ai, creations of ai, and ai community. Encountered it just today and seeking a term to place on what is apparently 'the enemy' to this exact niche we are in.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If they hate technology in general, they're luddites.

If they hate AI for all the good, legitimate reasons to hate the current "AI" trend, they're just rational.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What about the irrational haters?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I believe the technical term is "idjit."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Luddites don't hate "technology" in general, they had (and have) specific targets.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Meanings change. People don't usually refer to the specific group of political dissidents worried about the cotton gin when they say it. Just like if you were to call an authoritarian dickcheese a Nazi.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks to this post, I'm going to adopt the title of Butlerian!

I worked in telecom for years, and recently left because my company decided to automate out a bunch of positions by using their shiny new AI. It suggested carrying 300 Amps at 50 volts (DC) several hundred feet with 14 gauge cable. (Electricians, go ahead and laugh.)

I went back to school, learning IT support. Most of my classmates are fresh out of high school, and they're all using Chat GPT like my generation uses Google. But instead of googling the answer and then figuring out how to make it work and testing the results, they just stop.

Chat GPT says to use this config? They use it. Of course it doesn't work.

Over and over, I have classmates asking me why their Copliot generated code isn't giving them the right answer, or why their server process is failing to start.

I fear for the safety of a world where the tech support is provided by people who never learned how the tech runs, never learned to read, test, experiment, fail, and try again...

So yeah, Butlerian. points at my face

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

tho im definitely on the side of the good ais, i know exactly what you are talking about. Had a guy begging me to go over his code, which he had gotten from chatGPT, which didn't work. Was extremely annoying. Like all my effort learning coding myself is so I can troubleshoot this guy casually asking chatGPT whatever not wanting to learn coding himself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and that's not even getting into the rampant theft involved in AI image generation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe find another instance to regurgitate your bulshit in

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

It's the simple truth, and the sooner we grapple with these issues the sooner we can make AI better for everyone

[–] paddirn 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

i'm also adopting the term Butlerians. thank you

[–] randon31415 11 points 5 months ago

"People who used to make a living doing erotic commissions"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Yeah. Just "the resistance" is also fine. Or just "surviving humans".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago
[–] Death_Equity 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I do believe the term is "luddite", or "luddA.I.te" if you want to be hip and cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I still call them Luddites. Their arguments are so similar, half the time I'm not user if I'm a victim of a troll.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Tbh, luddite fits really well considering they only became associated with being Anti Tech once they started burning down Lace making factories since the advent of the Lace machine started taking high paying craftsmanship jobs away because a machine could produce what they did for cheap. Which, is as close to a perfect match as you're going to get in the real world

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I don't know. What do you call people who laugh at you behind your back?
People laughed at Picasso and Monet and Michelangelo and Keith Haring etc.

[–] j4k3 1 points 5 months ago

Technocogitotomist

[–] saltesc 1 points 5 months ago

Using Greek, Misautotechnicist.

Auto- Self

Tehkne- Skill/craft

-ic of, belonging to

Autotechnic = Technology that is of itself.

Miso- hate

Misautotechnic - Hates technology that is of itself.

Misautotechnia - Hatred towards technology of itself.

And lastly turn it into an idea...

-ism idea of

-ist person/thing of the ism/idea

Misautotechnicism - The idea of hatred toward technology of itself.

Misautotechnicist - One who subscribes to that idea. I.e. A personwho shows hatred toward technology that is able to act on its own.

[–] small44 -3 points 5 months ago

IAphobe since they are scared of the AI