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Farmers Hiding Bird Flu Cases in Cattle from the FedGov (www.notus.org)
submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/aboringdystopia
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This has a real "hide the zombie bite from your friends" feel to it, albeit on a much grander scale.

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[–] disguy_ovahea 110 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The USDA now requires a negative test for cattle to move across state lines, but no federal agency can mandate testing on the farms or go onto the farms without permission from the owners. Government requests to test farmers’ cows have mostly been ignored.

“You have to understand how they approach the world. They take on so much risk every day with what they do in their operation,” Naerebout said. “They are very reluctant on this issue or any other issue to have the government involved.”

So we have a feelings-based food supply. That’s probably fine.

[–] ThePantser 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So the USDA is now useless too? If they want approval to sell their cow stuffs the USDA should revoke their license unless they can enter their property to test.

[–] disguy_ovahea 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

In all fairness, the USDA has been useless for a long time.

Just one of many examples, “treatments” are not considered ingredients, so they don’t need to be disclosed to the consumer. McDonald’s takes mechanically separated chicken bits leftover from Tyson’s boning process, then mixes them with ammonia to kill bacteria, homogenizing it into a pink slime. That slime is pressed into four shapes distinct shapes, “breaded” and fried, and the ingredients list for McNuggets is not required to include ammonia.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

uh idk about the treatments thing in general but the pink slime myth about the nuggets specifically was both circulated and debunked before 2010, and the image that was going around of it was not taken in any facility relating to McDonald's.

You would have a point about the beef being treated with ammonia and homogenized, but according to AP, "McDonalds stopped using the by-product, known in the industry as lean, finely-textured beef, in 2011" here is their source on that

I really don't consider myself a McDonald's defender but the least you could do is say things that are current or even just recent and true lol

[–] disguy_ovahea 7 points 6 months ago

I saw it in a documentary a long time ago. I just looked myself, and it seems you’re right about it being their beef and not chicken.

The treatment designation is true. If a substance is added to food to be removed prior to consumption, it’s considered a treatment, and therefore does not have to be listed on the ingredients list.

[–] NatakuNox 7 points 6 months ago

I remember a story where a inspector had to wear a bag over her head to inspect a processing plant. So essentially blindfolded to inspect food production that would feed millions of people. Our whole political and economic system is a joke.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And they wonder why the rest of the world isn't super eager to import their awesome foodstuffs.

[–] disguy_ovahea 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No joke. I was floored when I read that Mexico refused to import corn unless the FDA provided proof of full safety of the “Roundup ready” GMO corn and glyphosate pesticide, and the FDA failed to respond with proof.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

We live in the Attention Age and the world runs to a large degree on emotions. This is fine, everything's fine.

[–] Allonzee 46 points 6 months ago

The private profit motive is at odds with societal well being.

And it wins every time.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Remember during the pandemic when the CDC made it very clear they didn't give a fuck about us. 5 day back to work with COVID policy, with zero science to back it etc.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The loss of public trust in the CDC in particular and public health in general are a huge problem. We'll need a generation or two to fix it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It doesn't help that the CDC capitulates to economic interests. Everyone suddenly saw that when the pandemic hit (except for the MAGA types, who somehow were convinced the CDC was being overly strict when it was quite the opposite). Hard to get your credibility back when it's so blatant.

[–] conquer4 13 points 6 months ago

Almost like a government agency is as reliable as the head of the government. And you had a shitstain then, and now you have the results of decades of laws to reduce oversight. If the CDC doesn't have the power over disease response, they don't have responsibility. The FDA has no oversight over cattle on farms, so no responsibility. It's your problem, not theirs.

[–] bahbah23 4 points 6 months ago

...no?

[–] sir_pronoun 18 points 6 months ago

This is going to turn out great!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

They aren't allowing the Government onto their property to check the cattle, and the cattle themselves will be tested if they try to move them over state lines, so, if these chuckle heads are dairy farmers, the government simply needs to check every drop of milk product that's shipped off the farm before it goes to market/processors/distributors. Easy peasy.

[–] confusedwiseman 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought they already test the milk from each farm. Truck comes to pick up your milk and takes a sample to check quality and butterfat levels to pay out on. If you allow bad milk into the truck, you just bought the whole truck as it can’t be used.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

well, then, test is harder, while snearing

[–] iAvicenna 1 points 6 months ago

oh yea they did, and found unviable traces of the virus. But with so many people drinking raw milk, good luck with our next pandemic?

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 7 points 6 months ago

Better dead than lose money.

[–] capital 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You can opt out of animal agriculture.

Stop giving these people your money.

[–] wafflez 2 points 6 months ago

Stop breeding and killing animals

[–] iAvicenna -3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

pfft like the government doesn't know already and isn't trying to hide it from the rest of the world. China should send a scientific team to the USA to investigate.