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[–] Tygr 159 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I’ve been “striking” for a long time now, against junk TV in general. There’s an occasional awesome show that delivers but 95% of it is low-effort junk TV like dating, survival, cooking and other shows like it.

I haven’t had live TV in years and it’s quite shocking to see what the average user deals with. Junk TV + ads that play 30% of the time is absolutely insane.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (4 children)

low-effort junk TV like dating, survival, cooking and other shows like it.

... in other words, exactly the shows that don't use actors or writers

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I haven’t had live TV in years and it’s quite shocking to see what the average user deals with. Junk TV + ads that play 30% of the time is absolutely insane.

Yeah, I’ve had the same experience. We don’t have live TV, and when we occasionally hang out with friends or family who do I’m always flabbergasted at the frequency and length of ad breaks nowadays, and similarly amazed that despite a nearly endless list of channels there never seems to be anything I actively want to watch.

[–] leapingleopard 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't believe the people that allow commercials to blare in their living rooms without diving for the remote control like the house is on fire. Is it just me? and they just continue normal conversation like it's somehow possible to hear them.

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[–] grue 24 points 1 year ago

My parents still have cable TV (I just got them a Roku not long ago, so fingers crossed...), and at this point I can't stand to watch it for more than about one and a half commercial breaks. It's hard to believe anybody willingly subjects themselves to that trash when ad-free alternatives are available.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies 30 points 1 year ago

You forgot animated sitcom that either lasts 6 episodes or 16 seasons

[–] mmagod 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol only 30%?

jokes but i agree.. i remember going to visit some relatives and sat and watched tv with them.. i too was so shocked at how they'd sit idly thru commercials jarring into their show, slapping them in the face..

i can't stand it. just about anything i watch, when i watch, is commercial free

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[–] [email protected] 140 points 1 year ago

Lol get fucked Hollywood

UNION STRONG ✊

[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Good. More please. Hold these cucks accountable.

Destroying the planet for infinite wealth.

[–] dojan 51 points 1 year ago

Yeah! I’m sick of it. Not only do they want infinite money but also infinite growth.

Literally like a cancer. Feasting on society until nothing is left.

[–] vimdiesel 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You wanna get really mad? A new practice they were trying to pull off was bring in some young good looking actors; do 3d body scans, record a bunch of voice data, and then have them allow the studios a perpetual license to use their likeness for a few thousand bucks. How evil is that?

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[–] jimmyjoners 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This. I want more strikes. I'm tired of everything going to shit and the masses sit back and do nothing. I've gone to a few protests recently, and honestly it's cheap therapy for me. Feels nice to actually DO something.

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[–] ThinlySlicedGlizzy 119 points 1 year ago (31 children)

I don't care how fast AI can pump out "high quality content" because I refuse to consume any of it. I really hope the strikes are successful.

[–] RidcullyTheBrown 30 points 1 year ago (29 children)

If it is high quality, why do you care how it was produced?

But it's not the high quality content that's threatened by AI, it's the mediocre gargabe. It's the endless stream of poor quality TV shows and movies which are produced not as art, but as a means of steady predictibile income for the companies involved. That's the industry aspect of the business. This side of the business consumes most of the talent in the industry. They all know it's not good and they all hope they will get the funding to actually work on the things they know will be high quality. I think AI will allow them to do that.

Further more, this strike is not just about AI. I think this aspect is the one media outlets care most about and gets reported on more. The entertainment industry has suffered a major shift with streaming platforms and the movement of money from production studios to streaming platforms has left the employees behind. They're getting less money from streaming platforms but still do the same work. That's what the strike is about. The industry didn't care for them when it changed.

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[–] tdawg 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

honestly we need legislation that protects artists who use their art as a means to live

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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Fuck hollywood.

This would be good opportunity for people to start new film studios and such, founded on more equal profit sharing. Let greedy pieces of shit shrivel and die without labor to exploit. There is no negotiating with those kinds of people as they will just try to find ways to force and manipulate people to do what they want.

[–] Aux 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's ironic that Hollywood was created by filmmakers and actors who got tired of being exploited by investors and cinemas alike.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's the circle of ~~liiiiiife~~ capitalism.

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[–] vimdiesel 100 points 1 year ago (19 children)

This is the best possible outcome. No one wants that AI generated shit while actors and behind the scenes people make starvation wages.

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[–] Clown_Tempura 74 points 1 year ago

Wow it's almost like people's tolerance for ruthless exploitation isn't infinite. Hollywood's disgusting parasitic grifters can get fucked.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I honestly don't know how I feel. Most content feels like 'consume our product/content and give us monthly fee' instead of nice shows and movies. Everything seems to have a point where it pulls me out and I find myself questioning if I'm crazy or if everything feels like shit.

There are some amazing gems, but for years it feels like Hollywood has cared less and less about making cool and engaging media and are instead of focusing on manipulating people.

I'm sure the problem is coming from the top, but writers and actors have been pretty shit too

[–] Jordan_the_hutt 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's in part due to nepotism. It seems like everyone who's successfully in entertainment is the child or grandchild of someone else who was successful in entertainment. The same is true for the music industry and its starting to become true in the AAA gaming industry.

When people start to get those jobs because of their family connections rather than their ability everything goes downhill. The most obvious example outside of entertainment is politics.

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[–] vimdiesel 23 points 1 year ago

Actors and writers use what they're fed, this is 99% on movie execs.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I'm interested to see how Hollywood evolves post strike. Hoping that this will allow Writers and Actors more agency when making their products rather than having to conform to whatever shitty money grubbing practices that the Execs usually force on them

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (23 children)

What's it going to take to actually do something about these ultra-rich leeches literally destroying our planet and everything good on it to inflate a number in a bank somewhere? How do we actually build up the initiative to stop it?

All our other problems seem largely centered around our inability to appropriately respond to extreme greed. Not only in actually actively stopping it, but in even identifying it or being able to properly censure it in the first place. The moment you start talking about the rich being the cause of our problems, there's a section of society that starts tuning you out. I definitely feel like as things get worse people are starting to catch on, but even once we're there, where do we go?

If we actually get to the point of agreeing that excessive wealth is inherently misanthropic and should be a crime in and of itself, how do we make it a crime while so much power sits in the hands of those who'd be on the losing end of that decision?

I hope the WGA and SAG can spark a change in people's consciousness around labor. I'd honestly love to see a lot more interviews and independent podcasts coming from the picket lines. If there's anyone who can convince Americans to fight for the value of their labor, it's the people write and play the parts in the stories they love.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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[–] MargotRobbie 51 points 1 year ago (15 children)

If you still have the bird app or some other method, send your support of solidarity to your favorite actors. They will definitely appreciate it.

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[–] EmperorHenry 44 points 1 year ago

I'm glad more and more workers are realizing the power they have over the industries they're working in.

Without the workers, the businesses have nothing. We really need to have a serious revolution before they replace all jobs with AI robots.

[–] Open 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is $25,000 per annum a living wage LA? To think that these are getting so little is nuts.

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[–] complacent_jerboa 34 points 1 year ago

incredibly based. fuck the execs. fucking parasites

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Good, I hope more join in and walk until Hollywood caves...They won't like this negative attention. 😁

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[–] pineapplefriedrice 34 points 1 year ago (9 children)

They're fighting a losing battle, but I hope a side effect of it is that new people come in and change both the economics and artistry of Hollywood. Most Hollywood content sits in a very rigid box. It's repetitive, unoriginal, and unappealing. People are encouraged to eat ramen for every meal in order to "make it", simply because far too many of them try (which is partially the result of the "follow your dreams" narrative in America as well). The further down you are, the worse your compensation. Good ideas get missed or thrown out and relegated to dollar theatres all the time.

If this strike goes on long enough that it starts to flush people out, I'm ok with that. Sucks for the people who are going to lose their livelihoods, but for some of them that was an eventuality. Hopefully in the end creators will have more creative freedom and receive more proportional compensation.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Having 20 writers so you don't have to pay them as much really dilutes any narrative structure.

[–] GammaScorpii 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hollywood is dead anyway. They just make superhero movies for china now

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

Solidarity ✊

[–] phillycodehound 31 points 1 year ago

Good to see actors, many whom get just the base for their work, stand up for what they deserve.

[–] zombuey 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Fake news, these are all crisis actors. They didn't even try I've seen many of these people in movies!

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I have mixed feelings about this. I hope they all are compensated fairly, but technology keeps getting better and capitalism latches on to the absolute cheapest solution. If that includes firing most employees and using AI to save billions a year then they will do it. I think this will just excacerbate AI proliferation in the end. Alas, no one gets paid to strike in America.

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