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[–] [email protected] 221 points 6 months ago (4 children)

And uh… no easily identifiable tattoos?

[–] Plopp 44 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 38 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing the intention here is that they're fake, marker drawn ones. Still not great, but I'd think the artist who made this would at least understand that much if they understood rules like no phone, no pics, no talking to pigs.

[–] Plopp 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That makes sense. But then again, the mom seems to be proudly showing off some unique tattoos herself, like that Opel gender sign, so it might run in the family.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

She’s also a big fan of vitamin B12

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But then how will people immediately know if they're cool or not???

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

As a tangent this is what has always irritated me with movements like the pro- legalization of weed.

I work 9-5 make good money and have 3 kids. I'm north of 40. I am not the same as the Billy bong pothead everyone sees at every rally because people like me stay the fuck away.

There are many of us that do not want to announce ourselves that are in the system actively working to change it for the better of everyone. Tattoos and a torn jacket do not make a punk.

[–] untorquer 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Billy bong pothead is probably also working full time and just as likely to have kids as anyone.

What's the problem that you're getting at? People dressing different? Expression of counter culture?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

And ? Why the hate on billy bong pothead?

[–] captainlezbian 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Exactly, people can see me and have no idea that I’m an anarchist. Like, mad respect to those who have political tattoos, my wife has a subtle one even, but I don’t even have any non political ones. It makes people not notice that the things I’m saying are anarchy.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a good rule of thumb. But in a huge group of anarchists i don't know if the anarchist symbol is particularly identifiable.

For real tho, if you're out protesting it's probably a good idea to cover your tattoos.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The commonality of symbol itself isn’t necessarily the point. If you have one that is easily identifiable (such as the anarchy sybmol) and the location is readily apparent, say on your left arm on your elbow, then that’s enough for them to go with to help with ID the person. While there may be plenty of the symbol around, the odds of a person of a certain age/sex/color having that same symbol in the same spot is pretty close to zero.

Late edit: if you want to fool visual identification via tattoos, get fake tattoos that are visible and then remove them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What's the deal with tattoos? I'm somewhat interested in getting some, but I don't want to get them if they'll make things more risky in the future. Then again, at an action you should be in black pants and long sleeve shirt with gloves and a mask, so maybe it doesn't matter all that much as long as you cover them?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Cover them, and don't get arrested, because if you get arrested, they will strip you naked in order to force you to shower and make note of any tattoos you didn't divulge in booking.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What are the repercussions of them being noted after arrest? Is the main thing that you're at higher risk if the tattoos are easily visible and there's a warrant for your arrest in the future?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Think of it like having your name, address written across your forehead. On its own a tattoo is benign but it's another item that can be used to personally identify you

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And cover any identifiable tattoos.

[–] AFaithfulNihilist 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Get some fake tattoos and put a rock in your shoe too.

Don't wear any clothes you wear elsewhere or bought in a way that can be tracked back to you.

[–] Plopp 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I don't remember where I read it, but apparently the rock in shoe thing doesn't work all that well.

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[–] RBWells 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit I actually did tell my daughter not to bring her phone to the protest.

[–] Opisek 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

May I know what's the reason to not bring your phone? Is it due to concerns of being tracked?

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago

Basically, yes. Plus, it may be unconstitutionally searched if you are detained.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 18 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Yes. Even when your phone is powered down, some models still ping cell towers. If it pings one, they know your distance to the tower. If it pings two, both towers know your distance, and the overlapping circles would reveal two positions coordinates, one of which you were at. With some contextual information, it's easy to know/prove which one you were at.

If it pings 3 towers, your exact location, and unique identifying information sucha as your phone's IMEI is revealed. So don't bring a cell.

[–] synapse1278 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Corporates are even bold enough to brand this as a nice to have feature, they call it "find my device" I think? But we can totally trust them to keep this data absolutely private and secure ! /s

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Surprised to see nobody has mentioned Banksy's "Mother and Anarchist", this is pretty close to it.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's no way this isn't a reference to that. The mom is essentially just traced over.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Thanks for sharing the picture, i should have done that 😅

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

i actually know people like this, i love my life

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Aww, some people have the sweetest parents :3

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I wonder, when are you supposed to put on your mask, at the protest, on the way there, when getting out of home?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

On the way home I'd think

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