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Any other suggestions for things we can do to push back against Sony?

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[–] essell 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to not buy the game for a while until they sort out this mess

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I suggest you don't buy it. nProtect + 3rd party account. I made the deal with the devil so I gotta sleep with it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad I gave up on live service games with Fallout 76's disastrous launch. Even the popular ones are just impossibly shitty these days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I have an extremely clear memory of watching that E3 Fallout 76 conference. I knew it would be a shit show as soon as he mentioned that there were no human NPCs. All the other shit he said about high next-gen detail/graphics just re-enforced the notion.

Bethesda? First time making a multiplayer game and they're swinging for psuedo-MMO? lol, I'm gonna sit this one out.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

Stop buying their products.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Can you also opt out of their frequent data breaches?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

You can use an email alias service like addy.io or simplelogin to create a throwaway email that still forwards to your real address. That way the leak won't contain your personal email.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

File support tickets directly with Arrowhead

https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

File a complaint with your local government body, I believe in Australia it is illegal to break a game after the fact. To substantially change how it runs to hold it hostage.

But even in other jurisdictions, even 1, 000 disgruntled gamers filing small claims against arrowhead would consume an outsized amount of resources to respond to.

Make noise, be disgruntled, don't play the game, file a negative review, create busy work for the perpetrators. They're stealing time and money from you, it's fair to do it to them. But legally

https://hackertalks.com/comment/3633633

[–] QuadratureSurfer 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is more of a Sony decision being forced down on Arrowhead. If anything we should try to direct actions and support tickets against them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Arrowhead is responsible just like Sony. But yes, make a ticket with both.

I just want a refund, and they can do whatever they like with their system.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So is this really only opt-out? If yes, that's against the GDPR, which requires an active consent:

8 CONSENT OBTAINED UNDER DIRECTIVE 95/46/EC

  1. For example, as the GDPR requires that a controller must be able to demonstrate that valid consent was obtained, all presumed consents of which no references are kept will automatically be below the consent standard of the GDPR and will need to be renewed. Likewise as the GDPR requires a “statement or a clear affirmative action”, all presumed consents that were based on a more implied form of action by the data subject (e.g. a pre-ticked opt-in box) will also not be apt to the GDPR standard of consent.

https://www.edpb.europa.eu/sites/default/files/files/file1/edpb_guidelines_202005_consent_en.pdf

[–] Badeendje 17 points 6 months ago

I already had cross play disabled. It was buggy and caused me to be stuck with kids telling at me over comms, Russians that had the whole family in the living room and unmuted and people eating LOUDLY.. since I disabled cross play.. none of that.. the occasional Russian.

PSN adds nothing for me.. don't want it, don't need it. I'll request a refund if they block me from playing.. and being from the EU.. this might be something valve will have to honor.

This feels like the robot chicken thing.. I have altered the deal, pray I don't alter it any further.

[–] FPSkra 11 points 6 months ago

Along with this you should also request a personal information report from your privacy settings....processing hundreds of thousands of requests should give them good practice and let Sony know we value our privacy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Thanks! I've had a PSN account since PS3. It's hard to keep up with opting out of this stuff since they like to add things to the terms of service.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They will just share for other reasons, but at least it is something.

[–] QuadratureSurfer 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, or update their ToS and add something new.

If you find anything else to opt out of, let us know!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I haven't played since the forced psn account but once I get back I am gonna temp-mail it until I find one that works.

Ain't giving them a single extra PI.

[–] motor_spirit 3 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

Yeah, stop playing helldivers. Move on.