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from the less-safety-equals-more-safety,-say-EuroCops dept

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Privacy measures currently being rolled out, such as end-to-end encryption, will stop tech companies from seeing any offending

Front doors also stop them from seeing things... is that next? What about clothes to conceal drugs?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Butt cheeks must be cut off so I can more easily inspect your rectum.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

"Aight sir i just needs ta check insad ya aeshowl"

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The letter opens with an admission by the collective of police chiefs that they’re unable to do their jobs unless tech companies do half the work for them.

I suppose previous generations of law enforcement that were able to do their jobs before all this does not count.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair: previous generations of police officers, back when most people used phones, have made extensive use of wiretapping (and current policemen still do, of course).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@[email protected]

Forty years ago police had to have a basic level of intelligence and they investigated. Now some of them just rely on arm-twisting and plea bargain threats to find any patsy they can to stuff in a cell. They can have no crime, no complaint, no witness, no evidence, and still arrest you, and the D.A. will offer you a plea deal for something that didn't even happen. Your public pretender defense lawyer will tell you to take the deal. Don't laugh... it can happen to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Sad but true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You seem to be describing the US system (or some other common law one... but I believe district attorney is a US-specific term?)...

IDK about other EU countries (I guess they are all the same in this regard?), but in my Italy the public prosecutor has zero discretionary power when it comes to indictment and must, per the Italian Constitution, proceed based on the investigation outcomes. So there is no "help me catch the bigger fish and I'll only charge you with some minor crime" like in the movies.

So... yes, what you describe can happen to anyone, but it can't happen just anywhere :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

The court system in USA is absolutely and irredeemably corrupt. Many prosecutors in USA are vile criminals and most of them belong in prison themselves. They have no respect for the Constitution or Bill of Rights that they are by law subscribed and sworn to uphold. They will use bogus criminal charges to affect or chill the outcome of an unrelated civil matter, to 'shut you up' in street parlance. People think America is free. It is an authoritarian hell run by delusional nutters. People like to scoff at that, until it's _their turn_ to ride the courthouse railroad.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

lazy asses. no wonder so much real actual crime goes unnoticed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They’ll be accepting responsibility for every illegal act that’s preventable by annihilating the right to privacy, then?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What about the illegal, but moral acts?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That would require an appreciation of nuance, which governments aren’t famous for having.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

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Nuance? Isn't that a racial slur? Mastodon is too based for me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

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Looky here, we found this nifty thing called, 'qualified immunity'.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not in Europe, that's a US thing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

You can have it now. We don't want it any more!

[–] MigratingtoLemmy 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And how exactly do they think they're going to break PGP and TOR without running an NSA-style racket?

[–] Arbiter 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Simple, they make it illegal so they don’t have to break the encryption and can arrest you purely for having encrypted content.

[–] TipRing 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This just results in deniable encryption.

[–] Dkarma 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had no idea this jpeg was 40gig ur honor

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's rookie numbers. My collection of cat pics is about 2 TB. Individual files are reasonable size of course. Clearly nothing can be hidden there.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Malicious compliance. Have Apple and Google remove all apps that feature encryption — web browsers, banking apps, messaging apps — from their stores for 24 hours. Demonstrate that this isn’t really a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

They should agree to do that willingly. While they are at it they should break sign in as well and block outgoing 443

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

That's a declaration of war on democracy and civil liberties

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would start with a letter to your representative

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I don't live in the EU

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

In the US encryption (source code) is protected under free speech

[–] warmaster 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

OK, but you remove all gun safety mechanisms. If you shoot yourselves in the balls, we encrypt everything back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Ah shit. Here we go again 🤣🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Not surprising