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[–] Etterra 17 points 6 months ago

Oh I knew Temu was bullshit the second I saw it's first ad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

In difference to ticktock thats temu shit isn't addictive or a propaganda Mashine.

But yes, both should be banned in the western world, but for different reasons.

[–] flames5123 33 points 6 months ago

I don’t think either should be banned. We just need data protection laws. The government going after single companies sets a dangerous precedent.

What the EU did with some of their compliance laws that targeted Google and Apple was set a number of users, so it wasn’t necessarily targeting a single or set company, as it applied to future companies too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

~~Do you mean that if something isn't propaganda or addictive it can steal and spy to its heart's content?~~

Also, there is a lot of propaganda and addictive things, especially from Meta, that seems to be okay 🤔

Edit: poor reading skills

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do you mean that if something isn't propaganda or addictive it can steal and spy to its heart's content?

That is the opposite of what i said.

Also, there is a lot of propaganda and addictive things, especially from Meta, that seems to be okay 🤔

Yes but meta isn't the Chinese government ordering propaganda. Meta definitely has problems but those problems are fixable, ticktock on the other hand will not follow such laws and since it's the Chinese governments sock puppet they will definitely fight it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is the opposite of what i said.

Yeah, I failed at reading this time

Regarding the law abiding behaviour of Meta, well I don't have much trust in that. But I'd say that having a court decision not followed looks like a better reason for a ban then voting for that in advance just in case

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Well, meta can be prosecuted in difference to ticktock. So i wouldn't trust them either, but as seen with ECJ cases prosecution is definitely possible.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Just to clarify that the actual law doesn't apply to Tiktok only...

[–] mvirts 8 points 6 months ago

They dont care because temu isnt political 🙃

[–] bcoffy 7 points 6 months ago

Facebook, Instagram, YouTube all in the corner doing the exact same thing just on American soil

[–] masinko 4 points 6 months ago

Yes, but Tiktok is worth billions. The law also won't ban it unless it's sold sold to an American company.

I'm on the conspiracy that Congress reps already have stocks in the companies that would bid for Tiktok, and they're trying to force a sale.

[–] GrymEdm 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The only explanation that makes sense to me is that TikTok is being targeted because it's teaching people to criticize their governments. It's a source of information that isn't domestically controlled and that's dangerous. It's where younger generations gather to protest and share news they don't see on Fox News or The New York Times. Coverage of the the bill don't mention changing TikTok's short-form format or restricting access to user's data - it's about either moving the corporation into the US hands or killing it's influence. Many experts and some politicians argue it's an attack on free speech and unconstitutional.

Arguments about mental health and data safety fall completely flat for me when so many other entities are left alone in spite of the same problems. Many social media platforms, ads, video games, etc. are deliberately designed to be addictive and give a "quick fix" that can harm mental health. Big companies like Google and Facebook/Meta have a business model of collecting data and "sharing" it with others. Governments collect data without protections like warrants all the time, and that includes the US. If mental health, privacy, and data safety were really the issues that motivated lawmakers we'd be seeing much more general protections (like in the EU) as opposed to targeting one company.

[–] yeahiknow3 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Or, and I know this sounds crazy so bear with me, TikTok has almost 200 million US users and it’s owned by a hostile authoritarian regime seeking to dismantle any vestige of democracy around the globe.

Just spitballing here.

[–] TropicalDingdong 1 points 6 months ago

Oh shit was it Byte dance that spread RW propaganda and radicalized a generation of young men in support of one political candidate?

Oh no that was Meta (fb at the time).

How about a company disproportionately allowing one specific sub to violate content and user policies for months, years before acting, effectively allowing Russian propaganda bots to build a grassroots movement from what strated as a parody sub? (r/thedonald, Reddit).

Google has done the same thing via YT, effectively driving specific demographics to right wing conspiracy 🥜 job. At the same time they suppress leftist viewpoints and availability if leftist content.

Big tech wants RW fascism in the US.

[–] IsThisAnAI 0 points 6 months ago

I couldn't care less about private companies pulling data from their app or having my credit card number. I'd rather strong laws on what the government can buy and compel from them.

[–] thezeesystem -4 points 6 months ago

Temu doesn't give information the government doesn't want you to see.

Ironically the us government banning TikTok is pretty much what China does with Western media iirc. So like. China bad, but we be like China?