Whoof I absolutely could not get into nbcnews without disabling my ad blocker. Guess I'm not visiting them any more :/
Edit: thank goodness for autotldr! ❤️
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Probably the best outcome. Both countries got to do their little show of force. Nobody loses face.
Well not the best outcome, obviously. That would be "everybody agrees to not be cunts and stop killing civilians", but that's not going to happen.
Great news, Iran isn't killing any civilians. Only israel is doing that.
Well, they are killing civilians, it's just that they're locals.
Iran has constantly proved itself the more rational and mature actor in the Middle East compared to Israel.
Yet we allow Israel to have nukes while we sanction the fuck out of Iran.
Hmm 🤔
They launched a massive attack on Israel, Israel responded with a very small and limited strike. Iran have been funding terrorist proxy groups for decades. They also treat their own people and women horrifically.
Hate Israel all you want, but cheerleading for an Islamic theocracy is stupid.
It's strange how you're ignoring the fact that Israel attacked first. Iran retaliated, and did so after warning Israel of exactly what it was going to do so it could prepare. It did this even though Israel attacked Iran without a similar warning and assassinated an Iranian general.
Iran's response has been tepid and measured because it doesn't want to start WW3. Israel, on the other hand, very clearly does.
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did you forget that irans attack came after israel attacked an iranian embassy unprovoked
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No one is cheerleading but just like Israel can protect itself so can Iran, your feelings about their politics aside if you strike a sovereign nation you should absolutely expect a stroke in return if not scale war.
In response to their Embassy being bombed they launched a few outdated rockets and drones that they gave a week's warning of. Excuse me if I don't view that as legitimate threat.
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I hate that Israel has nukes, but I don't know that it's a matter of "allow." Once a country has nukes, taking them away is not going to be very doable. Especially not now after Russia broke its nuclear weapons deal with Ukraine.
That's the problem with nukes. Once the genie is out of the bottle, it doesn't go back in. That's why, if Iran does end up developing one, it will either be another MAD situation with Israel or they will both nuke each other into oblivion. There's really no other option on the table.
I mean, I think the MAD situation between the USSR and the US had some success around mutual disarmament, no? Neither of them are devoid of nukes, now, but if I remember, the days of the world being nuked several times over in the event of ww3 is now long gone as a possibility. I dunno, this is obviously a pretty different situation, and that was kind of, not a fluke, but due to some pretty specific and complicated factors, I think. I dunno, I guess I'm just saying it's more of a matter of degree than kind of being such an all-or-nothing thing, which is how most people would perceive it.
I mean, I think the MAD situation between the USSR and the US had some success around mutual disarmament, no? Neither of them are devoid of nukes, now, but if I remember, the days of the world being nuked several times over in the event of ww3 is now long gone as a possibility.
Yeah... I wouldn't say that.
https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
Iran's foreign minister on Friday refused to acknowledge that Israel was behind the recent attack on his country and described the weapons that were used as more like children's toys.
"What happened last night was not a strike," the foreign minister, Hossein Amirabdollahian, said in an interview with NBC News' Tom Llamas.
Amirabdollahian, who spoke to NBC News in New York where he was attending a U.N. Security Council session, said Iran was not planning to respond unless Israel launches a significant attack.
Iran responded 12 days later, launching an unprecedented, direct military attack on Israel involving more than 300 missiles and drones.
In the following days, the Biden administration urged Israel to exercise restraint and not conduct a retaliatory attack that could trigger a full-blown war between the two adversaries.
The limited scope of the strike and the lack of public statements afterward appears to indicate that both sides are looking to ease tensions, experts said.
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