collapse of the old society
to discuss news and stuff of the old world dying
Many cities are putting in street lamps that reduce light pollution so I don't think this will be true. They may have issues taking good photos of celestial objects if we keep putting up LEO satellite constellations like StarLink though.
I've never seen the milky way and I'm already in my 50s.
I gotchya fam
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That's honestly saddening.
I'm In my 30s but live in a small town and we go 60kms in one direction and you can see the milkyway and millions of stars.
Go 1200kms and it gets breathtaking in the desert of Australia
It's even more beautiful than I imagined!
I'm 28 years old. My dying wish is to see a clear night sky with no light pollution. I want to see what our ancestors saw every night of their lives. I want to see the arm of the milky way. I want to see space in its entirety.
I'm 28 years old and will probably never get to see any of that in my lifetime. It's not just a problem future generations have to deal with but current and former.
We're fucking up so bad.
Take a hiking trip to some remote area on a day with good weather conditions. Bring some warm cloth as these days usually come with cold nights.
It's definitely not impossible to see a night-sky like that. I have seen it multiple times in my life. But yeah, it requires some preparation and travelling these days.
There are still better places for observation...
The majority of children born today are born in densely populated - and highly polluted - cities where they can't see the stars, and are unlikely to ever have enough disposable income to travel for pleasure. The thesis holds.
The thesis holds.
no, it does not. for most people that good observation area is in a range of 200-300 km, that can be walked on your feet, if you can't afford public transport. It is definitely not as convenient as being able to observe from your own backyard, but hardly impossible.
When was the last time you walked 20kms let alone 200
how is that relevant? is there any answer that would result in conclusion "no, it is not possible"?
You're arguing like You're 13. I don't have the patience for a conversation with you
so i understand you don't know the answer. ok then, tuck your tail and run, clown 😂
Disability, time, supplies, weather, no safe route...
any answer regarding my personal walking habits.
I think you severely underestimate how many poor children there are that have no economic ability to take trips outside of where they live.
you might be pleasantly surprised that situation is not as bad as we often think.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-population-living-in-extreme-poverty-cost-of-basic-needs
long story short, majority of children born today will be able to see the milky day, that is assuming they will be interested in seeing it.
yes, not out of their balcony in the center of 10m megapolis, they will have to take a bus somewhere. poor children living in the middle of rural nowhere may be poor, but "lucky" enough to actually see it from their backyard. i assume there is quite good linear dependence where the really poor people likely don't have that much light pollution around them and those who do can afford a bus ticket.
that may indeed not be applicable to every person in the world, but the title of this post is making it sound way more dramatic than it actually is.
I didn’t know you can see Milky Way. I saw some photos online that I thought are just made up artworks for quite a long time
We are in it, at the edge, so any face on views where you can see the spiral are artists' impressions, but you can see it side on, more so in the southern hemisphere without light pollution, as a line of stars across the sky.
We're about two thirds the way out on one of the arms. We aren't at the edge.
Ok fine, not quite at the edge, but towards the edge. We're not at the centre, for sure.
we are in it, but we can see the narrow profile of the galactic disk in the sky.
Yes but what happens if the stars start blinking for us?
All humans with the gift of sight see the Milky Way
in this case - technically correct is not the best kind of correct...