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cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/1249481

Meet the new forge, same as the old forge. Forge has been forked, with the majority of forge's developers moving over to the fork, NeoForge. They hope to implement some major improvements come 1.21 and maintain compatibility with Forge mods on 1.20.

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[–] Appie 11 points 1 year ago

Really interested in this, what has happened here?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We now have four main players: Quilt, Fabric, Forge and NeoForge

Please lets not make a compatibility nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure Forge is dead in the water. The majority of devs left for NeoForge, and it's likely the majority of moddevs will follow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Forge and NeoForge probably won't be a problem since they're designing it to be fully compatible with old Forge and also pulled most developers away from old Forge in the process. Never heard of Quilt before though and can't find too much info on it, are there any big mods for it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

maintain compatibility with Forge mods on 1.20.

This is the part where it made it doubt. Sounds like they are supporting 1.20 Forge mods only.

Quilt is based on Fabric. While currently supporting Fabric mods, at the start they were actually not planning on keeping this compatibility. I don't know now.

There are a couple of Quilt modpacks, but most mods in them are for Fabric still. I don't think there are too many mods for Quilt yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

@SSUPII @Astrealix oh we will and by we I mean the devs its already kind of a nightmare

[–] TheObserver 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I really hate that there is multiple mod loaders now. It would be fine if they were compatible with each other or atleast somehow allow multiple mod loaders to work together.

But for now all those fancy fabric and quilt mods will just be left in the dust for me. Way to many forge mods for me to want to ditch forge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There have always been multiple mod loaders, and Fabric isn't even a new one by now.

With anything past Minecraft 1.16, Forge has actually drastically reduced in popularity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

acc. to cpw in the [email protected] thread, he "was just done defending him [LM] and his shitty behaviour. Especially when I found out what he did to curle, the person we specifically placed in a public facing role, a task she handled with aplomb. I was through defending him."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bappity 3 points 1 year ago

my mood when the 5 millionth Minecraft modloader project is forked due to petty squabbles in the community discord chat

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been out of the Minecraft modding community for............. ever and I honestly have no idea where to start, especially now with forge controversy. I want to play the create mod. Does anyone have tips, tricks or tutorials?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@stephfinitely @Astrealix honestly just use the fabric version avoid whatever forge is doing and enjoy yourself on fabric my server runs fabric with 1.19.2 create mod works fine is fun all you need is the fabric loader, fabric api mod and the create mod and that's basically it

[–] oxhead 2 points 1 year ago

I concur. Fabric is far more performant and switching back to Forge is no longer tolerable for me.

I am not sure if NeoForge will aim to be more peformant.

[–] Delation 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never heard of NeoForge before

[–] Astrealix 18 points 1 year ago

That's cuz it was born yesterday lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Quilt's mods are so good now that I don't need to use Forge on modern versions of Minecraft.

[–] WillFord27 1 points 1 year ago

The last time I used quilt it had some incompatibilities with fabric mods I use, I imagine by now that's been fixed though