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[–] [email protected] 91 points 7 months ago

Bibi will switch off the defenses again, to create more outrage and extremism and stay in power.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 7 months ago (7 children)

So stupid. If they were smart, Iran's leadership would use this opportunity to gain international support and clout by behaving like the reasonable ones while Israel is going rogue.

[–] filister 68 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What I struggle with the most is how the West just shrugged shoulders when Israel hit embassies in foreign countries.

If this has happened in any other country/embassy the international outcry would have been much bigger. Those double standards which we apply to international politics are despicable. And this also creates a sense of impunity in Israel and we all see what that leads to.

How can you preach morale when you yourself are wicked?

[–] samus12345 24 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 50 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Israel struck an Iranian embassy. Some things demand a response.

Not everyone can be China and shrug off the US bombing their embassy in Serbia.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (74 children)

Israel has been bombing them for ages. At some point people are allowed to defend themselves.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's true, but is that a wise move, geopolitically? If Iran retaliates with force, it risks escalation, because Israel will hit back, likely with the help of its powerful allies. Iran's BRICS allies may stand by it, or they may keep a distance, not wanting to get dragged into armed conflict. Such an attack will also shift moral and media focus away from the genocide in Gaza, allowing Israel to play up external threats in its public messaging.

Its BRICS allies will support Iran if it makes its case to the UN for an international response, and it may get support from other nations which are fed up with Israel at the moment. It seems like the international order is spooked right at the moment about Israel's and Ecuador's attacks on embassies; it's a good time to make this pitch. And if the UN does little to address Iran's grievances, its leaders can play that up at home as evidence of hostility toward it by the West to undermine the pro-Western youth movement threatening their rule.

This is looking at it from the point of view of Iran's interests. From my point of view, less bombing of things and less war is better for the world.

[–] Belastend 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Iran would not get any support, aside from maybe Russia or Syria.

[–] Treczoks 4 points 7 months ago

Well, and Russia does not have much of war resources to spare, and Syria is not exactly the biggest player in town. Yes, they do have and used poison gas on enemies, but that would probably lead to "The Crater, formerly known as Damascus".

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[–] JustZ 16 points 7 months ago

Haha. Good one.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (6 children)

That's an interesting take.

I think it helps to remember that these decisions are often made by people who have very specific goals that aren't aligned with the nation itself. Generals who want to get promoted to higher levels, government ministers looking to curry favor with their patrons.

You might be right, but they're likely not trying to improve Iran's standing. They're looking to each improve their own. Also, most people in these positions, in my observation ARE very dumb.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is Israel now in the find out phase?

[–] ripcord 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not really, sadly.

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