My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don't pay or try to leave.
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Also, how can we be assured the privacy practices of their subscription/payment platform are at least better than the (likely blockable) trackers?
Forming a financial relationship with a website is, theoretically, infinitely more traceable to your personal identity than all the cookies in the world.
My bank would probably tell everyone before they did.
Can't do that in the EU (thank you GDPR).
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Im in the US. The law dose not apply to businesses who can pay bribes.
Join us in the EU 🙂
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Unless the US is joining the EU, telling people to move is not a solution but a side-stepping. Side-stepping problems allows them to continue and grow.
but they do this here anyway, at least in germany
They can, but then that can end up in EU court. If it happened to you, tell the consumer association of your country or your Data Protection Officer. People and companies can do what ever they like, they just have to live with the consequences.
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This is what we're discussing
My biggest concern is they will hold your data hostage if you don’t pay or try to leave.
Are golem, pur, spiegel, and others doing so? Have you tried asking for your data to be deleted and gotten a "fuck you we won't" or no response at all (which is also the equivalent of "fuck you we won't")?
Privacy is not paid for. Privacy is taken. it is something that only you can achieve for yourself. paying ransom money will do little
Even if you pay them, your privacy is gone. Any part of you placed in someone else's hands makes privacy a joke
Now they got ya financial info! Even less privacy!
For true
I misread pay as gay and I thought this thread was going to get spicy
New biometric method just dropped
Is € 251.88 the estimated loss in revenue? I would like to say that it only makes sense if you assume the user will be on the platform either way, instead of just not paying and leaving. However, my experience with others makes me believe they will take whatever option to get to what they want.
I think it's a situation for policy but, at least here in the US, our policy makers aren't in the ethical or learned position to be effective.
What I'm saying is, the boat has holes and I'm concerned.
Nope they make a bit more.
First article that came up in DDG from 2022: https://www.techadvisor.com/article/745709/this-is-how-much-money-facebook-earns-from-your-data-each-year.html
Needs more pihole.
Just avoid using them. Expecting free services without giving out anything is naive.
The reason is because your country doesn't have a GDPR
The main reason is because the vast majority of people do not care or lack foresight of where that trend has been taking us for over 17 years. Surely you have friends or family who do not care. I do.
GDPR is EU legislation, noyb is an EU organisation. What are you talking about?
I'm talking about passing data privacy laws that make the concepot of the OP illegal, like GDPR.
Pay or okay is happening in the EU right now as well. At least in Germany...
Sure, they'll get fined a few hundred million Euros for it, though
That’s…what the article is about. The pay or consent trend is starting in Europe because of EU laws that forced companies to give people an option to opt out of tracking. Now the EU is looking at another way to force tech companies to offer a realistic option for avoiding tracking.
It kinda seems like you didn’t read the article at all.
It says the EU is deciding how much to fine these companies.
Read the article. It's about the EU.
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Mindless shitting on America: check
All we're missing is all rich people are bad!" And we would have hit the Lemmy trifecta.
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