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Enhanced Performance: DNF5 promises faster repository metadata processing and improved package query operations, aiming to save users precious seconds during package management tasks.

Reduced System Footprint: By eliminating Python dependencies and merging the functionalities of DNF and MicroDNF, DNF5 offers a significantly smaller installation size, reducing metadata redundancy.

Unified Experience: Fedora aims to provide a consistent package management experience across all platforms, with DNF5 serving as the sole package manager for servers, workstations, and containers.

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[–] somethingsomethingidk 30 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I've been using dnf5 for a few weeks now. I never want to go back. If you use fedora, seriously consider checking it out. The only thing I'm missing is the provides subcommand.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Is it just because it's faster? Feels like I can wait a couple of months for that?

[–] somethingsomethingidk 25 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah pretty much, but it's wayyyy faster. There's times where it feels like dnf is hanging trying to download metadata that's 25KB. I have 1Gb down and it takes like 2 minutes, its ridiculous. I know in the grand scheme of things I'm being petty. But it's frustrating when the metadata step takes longer than downloading 500MB of packages lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Thanks yeah, I do get that - when something is a lot faster, it feels pretty great, and you kinda wish you had that forever. At the same time, when you didn't have it, you're blissfully ignorant and don't really miss it. So I'm going to keep myself in that state to avoid borking my system with a premature upgrade, haha.

[–] bitchkat 1 points 9 months ago

Is it faster because its using the cache more effectively? Because I'm a chronic "dnf clean all && dnf update" type.

[–] robojeb 10 points 9 months ago

Ahh got to wait for your current system update to finish I see. /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I hate dnf downloading 100 mb of meta data before I can install a package.

I had worked with Pacman and it was just so good with repos.

Does it feel better?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Did you run into any issue? Is it stable enough? I've never got the guts to install it on my main desktop.

[–] somethingsomethingidk 6 points 9 months ago

I haven't yet! Today I did a kernel update with it, I was kind of hoping something would go wrong so I would have a bug to report. But nope. Everything worked flawlessly. I'm not really sure how to break it but I'm going to try (in a vm lol)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's been a while since i used fedora but last i remember dnf was awe fully slow compared to pacman. In fact so slow that i was wondering if there was some kind of bug somewhere. Glad this is being addressed. Fedora is imho the best distribution to get someone to use Linux for the first time. It works so well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I recommend giving dnf the -C flag to most operations, particularly those that don't involve downloading packages. The default behavior is often similar to pacman's -y flag and so the metadata sync ends up slowing everything down by orders of magnitude.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I resized an lvm partition on my server with a fedora live image, and when I installed something with dnf, I was in shock how long it took. Hopefully this addresses this. Personally I've found my home distro: Debian

[–] TCB13 5 points 9 months ago

Personally I’ve found my home distro: Debian

Like someone who just wants a productive system.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I've been using it since I switched to Fedora a month and a half ago, and I have had 0 problematical with it. Considering how much Fedora likes to be a testing bed for everything, I'm surprised it wasn't here with Fedora 39 (because it was delayed).