Man, Russia is nuts. I dunno where these guys got their beatings, but this seems like nothing you’d see in the US.
Also, hard to understand how they can blame Ukraine for this while none of the suspects are Ukrainian.
this post was submitted on 25 Mar 2024
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Presumably because they couldn't find any Ukrainians to pin the blame on.
I'm somewhat skeptical about if these people are actually responsible, since I would have thought that a properly organized terrorist would actually leave the country pretty pronto.
That, or they weren’t planning on leaving the scene of the attack, since that’s one of their primary tactics
well the police didnt even turn up for like 90 minutes apparently so maybe they gave up waiting for them to suicide by cop
Maybe ISIS claiming the attack makes that harder too?
That's starting to look weak. They're allowing reality to have an impact on decision making.
You really won't see this in the USA, because few people even reach the border. After September 11, the United States is fine with eliminating threats. For example, the United States knew about this attack for 2 weeks.
UPD: I also remind you that after September 11, the United States did not limit itself to one person but beat up an entire country
Most people involved with the sbu's sabotage and terrorism inside Russia where not Ukrainian.
But you might see it in Cuba, if you know where to look
All appeared to have been beaten - videos of brutal interrogation sessions were apparently leaked by Russian security forces, and reports suggest at least one had suffered electric shocks.
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The men the court identified as Mirzoyev and Rachabalizoda had black eyes and the latter's ear was heavily bandaged - reportedly from it being partially severed during his arrest.
Mirzoyev also appeared to have a torn plastic bag wrapped around his neck.
The face of the man identified as Fariduni was badly swollen, while the man named as Fayzov appeared to lose consciousness as he was brought into court in a wheelchair wearing a thin hospital gown.
He appeared to have an eye missing, according to the Reuters news agency.
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A court statement on the Telegram messaging service said Mirzoyev had "admitted his guilt in full", while Rachabalizoda also "admitted guilt".
Anyone will admit guilt if you do that to them. Is there any actual evidence that these men were the ones who attacked the concert hall?
Nyt is showing stills from the videos compared to what they were wearing during arrest, clothing matches.
Oh well I guess that's definitive evidence then. Clothing is a unique unreplicatable item, everyone knows that.
Russia didn't even believe these attacks were going to take place, I refuse to believe that they're able to catch the culprits this quickly, there's a level of organization and skill that they've never previously demonstrated.
I mean Occam's razor and all.
If you want to go down the conspiracy rabbit hole then please do... But I'm not sure why the nyt would benefit from continuing putins claim