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I've been on Wayland for the past two years exclusively (Nvidia).

I thought it was okay for the most part but then I had to switch to an X session recently. The experience felt about the same. Out of curiosity, I played a couple of games and realized they worked much better. Steam doesn't go nuts either.

Made me think maybe people aren't actually adopting it that aggressively despite the constant coverage in the community. And that maybe I should just go back.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'm running Wayland for many months now. Yust because why not. It just works. Debian sid with gnome here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Used it for the last few years. X just doesn't work right with multiple monitors of different resolution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Have been using GNOME with Wayland on a dual GPU NVIDIA laptop for 2 years. DE runs on the integrated Intel card; Steam, games, anything that needs dGPU runs on NVIDIA. It’s been a smooth experience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I tried for a bit and it was great, no complaints. However, I was having issues getting NixOS set up as quickly as I would like, so I went back to Pop!_OS. I'm looking forward to the next release of Pop, which will have full Wayland by default.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've been running wayland on popOS for a year now. Works great. It's already installed, you just have to into a file and either delete a line or change false to true. Takes about 2 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I've thought about making the leap, but this is a work machine so I want to make sure it's rock solid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Mid 2022, when i swapped my nvidia card to an AMD one. Instantly switched to Wayland (KDE Plasma) and stayed there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I've been dailying it on my desktop for a couple of years now (I want to say since 2022 but I forget exactly... there was a Plasma release where a certain feature finally became realised on Wayland and I switched then). Been running on my laptop for much longer, where I use GNOME. It's been great, but I don't have any Nvidia hardware.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I tried it a few times on different hardware. There were weird lags, freezes, crashes, latency, artifacts, flickering (once I had to reinstall the system to fix it), no cursor in games etc etc so no thanks. It doesn't work for me. Maybe it's possible to fix if I spend a week in the terminal but ehh idk. It's just not ready for me I guess. And I didn't even have enough time to find compatibility issues. I'm a little bit afraid that by the time Wayland is ready, a new system will already be required lol. It's getting better though so probably it will be ready for business/production in a few years idk. The only thing I can definitely tell is that it must not be the default on regular desktop distros now. Wayland may be good but it's not mature. Switching to it on the login screen is a 3 seconds task and it fixes so many issues, especially on older hardware

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I've been using it since Plasma 6 came out so about 3-4 weeks.

Overall, it's been a very negative experience for me. The main problems have been:

  • Random scaling issues in apps: some apps show a slightly smaller cursor, other show a poorly upscaled one, others have random rendering issues like lines remaining on the screen after an option is no longer highlighted (gimp, libreoffice, many others), some apps have random flickering of parts of the UI, some apps no longer scale at all or are scaled twice. Plasmashell itself has blurry icons on the desktop but all other KDE apps don't. I know fractional scaling has always been problematic, but it has gotten worse to the point of being almost unusable
  • Random crashes of GTK apps when using the wayland backend. Some GTK apps don't even start and segfault immediately with a wayland error in the terminal
  • Some apps like okular and libreoffice lag like crazy or outright freeze when scrolling
  • Some games not capturing the cursor properly (Proton)
  • Inconsistent font rendering, some fonts look fine in some apps and atrocious in others
  • Issues when resizing or moving windows, some times they "jerk" off the screen or resize to a very tiny window and I'm forced to use key combinations to resize them again
  • Random issues with window decoration not appearing in some apps but randomy appearing for things like context menus

This is on a full AMD system with Arch Linux, the latest kernel and mesa-git. I hope for KDE's sake that there's something broken in my installation because I can't believe the KDE team released Plasma 6 in this sorry state.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I've been using Sway for over 2 years, and for my workflow it works well, with one exception I just can't get vscode to scale properly for my display.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

A year-ish, Plasma, Intel iGPU for Desktop and Nvidia offload for Steam. It's great.

[–] turbowafflz 1 points 9 months ago

I've been using it since about spring 2022 and it's been way more reliable than X for me. The only times I've had trouble was one computer where I was missing one of the pipewire packages I needed for screen sharing and another time I tried to run it on a 20 year old Radeon X1600, but both of those were my fault and not something a normal user is likely to encounter. For context I've used Sway, Hyprland, GNOME, and Plasma although the usability has been the same between all of them.

[–] bitchkat 1 points 9 months ago

I kind of forced myself to use Wayland for the past few fedora releases. I held off for a long time because it didn't have a way to map middle mouse button to left button (touch area) on my touch pad. This was done with a simple xinput command. On wayland I have the touch area disabled and have to use the physical buttons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Generally I have when I use Gnome or KDE on Linux, though I have started to prefer MATE, which doesn't have Wayland support yet afaik. I also started using FreeBSD on one of my computers a bit more, and I believe Wayland support is still a bit wonky on that right now. But as soon as Wayland support is there I'm definitely switching to that on the daily.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

KDE Wayland is an epilepsy inducing flickerfest with my Nvidia GPU, so it's off limits until they fix it. Games usually run fine on X11, but one exception I noticed is Noita, it runs like crap on X11, and runs great on Wayland for some reason.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

When VMWare Horizon Client (which I need for work) supports it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'm on AMD, so I've been on Wayland since around 2021. Haven't really experienced any issues.

[–] prey169 1 points 9 months ago

Gsync doesn't work yet so... Not yet for me.

Also, they need to fix the load apps in last location like X has

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I use Wayland on my laptop running fedora 39 kde spin and it mostly runs fine. When I browse gifs in discord the screen flashes white and I can't maximize jellyfin on connected TVs but other than that no major issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, since Fedora 21 when it switched by default.

It hasn't really caused game breaking issues for me, however it is nice that the few nit-picks have all been resolved.

I get the sense that the majority of people use it on Workstations, there is just a vocal minority that resists the change. There are so many academic and enterprise users just using distros in their default state Wayland and all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I have been for the past month now. All of my games are now working.

Previously no and the reason was bc of Nvidia issues, but they all seem resolved now for the most part

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use Wayland since I got a second monitor, since X can't handle mixed DPI. I'd use X otherwise, since global hotkeys work there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Global hotkeys work in kde wayland and hyprland!

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