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New EU rules which introduce “polluter pays” principles to get pharmaceutical and cosmetic companies to pay for the pollution they cause in rivers will not be adopted by the government in England, as campaigners say the country is falling behind.

Lawmakers in Europe have signed off on an update to the urban waste water treatment (UWWT) directive, which is to further tighten restrictions on pollution. More nutrients from agricultural waste and sewage will have to be removed from waterways under the new rules. It also for the first time applies standards to micropollutants such as chemicals from pharmaceutical waste.

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[–] IndiBrony 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Colour me surprised...

EU is getting on with at least trying not to destroy the planet entirely, and here we are getting nostalgic for Victorian times, the workhouses, and the time we didn't have healthcare.

[–] Z3k3 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And yer dragging the rest of us down with you.

The events since 2014 have not made me think I voted incorrectly

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] SonnyVabitch 8 points 11 months ago

They are probably referencing their vote in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum, in which they presumably voted yes, but which ultimately failed.

I don't have any skin in that particular game, but if I were Scottish I would be absolutely livid with how they were treated. Just one example:

Scotland is by and large in favour of the EU. During indyref they were told that leaving the UK means leaving the EU, they chose to stay in the UK, then England dragged them out of the EU a mere two years later anyway.

[–] Z3k3 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

England's decisions are inherently inflicted on the test of the UK either directly via UK legislation or indirectly via things like the Barnet formula where its a case of follow suit or Hurt something else

[–] IndiBrony 2 points 11 months ago

I hate it as well. I was fully supportive of Scotland's referendum as I continuously hate the way that London treats the rest of the UK. I was so hopeful for the Scottish referendum, I was actually looking at properties north of the border in the hopes that I'd gain Scottish citizenship eventually.

I also voted to remain in the EU, and I'm annoyed that so many around me voted to leave.

[–] SonnyVabitch 10 points 11 months ago

Sewage has long been a problem in UK rivers and on UK beaches.

The current regulations are not enforced, so introducing stricter standards would have precious little impact unless the regulators grow some balls and teeth. Right now, sewage companies are allowed to dump raw, untreated waste water (yeah, poop) into the environment under certain extreme circumstances, however, in their interpretation, those circumstances include it being a Wednesday..

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Lawmakers in Europe have signed off on an update to the urban waste water treatment (UWWT) directive, which is to further tighten restrictions on pollution.

The update also introduces a crucial measure called “extended producer responsibility”, which means cosmetic and pharmaceutical companies will be asked to contribute to the cost of treating wastewaters if they are causing chemical pollution.

This means costs for cleaning chemicals out of waterways will be partially covered by the responsible industry, rather than by water bills or public budgets.

Michael Nicholson, the head of environmental policy at the Institute for European Environmental Policy, said: “If the updated EU law on wastewater treatment comes into force in the next few months, as is likely, this would be a major step forward in tackling pollution from cosmetic and pharmaceutical products which enter our rivers and seas and endanger public health and aquatic life alike.

Libby Peake, a senior policy analyst at Green Alliance, said: “The UK government acted quickly to ban some microbeads from wash-off cosmetics in 2018 and was rightly applauded for it.

People will be surprised to learn that all sorts of cosmetics – lipstick, suncream, and so on – can still legally contain plastics in the UK, as can medicinal products, paints, detergents, and fertilisers.


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