Technology

E-waste will continue to be a problem until companies are forced to make products that are designed to be repaired and upgraded without replacing them.

We have certification for safety and compliance, why not one that guarantees that an electronic product can be fully repaired by the end user using readily available (and affordable!) parts? It can be on a scale from 1 to 10, and the less repairable the item, the more restricted its distribution should be.

Every laptop should be made like a Framework laptop; every phone like a Fairphone. Every electronic product should certified to have long life.

And that is exactly why we need more regulation on this area, because it's NOT sustainable right now.

This was why the EU made it mandatory to use USB-C, so we only need few chargers for everything in our home. This alone were tons of e-waste reduced each year.

We need this thinking in other areas too.

We need phones that don't break so easily and we should be able to repair them and replace the battery, at the very least.

The most fucked up part is that, if I could, I'd happily take in some of that trash to repair and recirculate it, but corporations make that as difficult as possible so as to not hurt their profits.

I feel a law that would go a long way would be to force companies to release code, drivers, and designs of any product they no longer support. That includes Intellectual Property. If you no longer support a product, then you don't need the IP used on it.

We either get everything we need to use EOL products however we want, or companies support products much longer to protect their IP.

E waste is full of precious metals. You’d think someone would figure out how to recover them.

Apple: No no no, it's fine! Keep buying a brand new phone every 2 years! Oh, you don't want to? Well, we'll make them irreparable, lock down the software so that you can't revive it or reuse it in any way, claim it's for "security", and make sure that repairing it costs as much as a new phone.
But believe us, we're the good guys and are doing our best to be sustainable 😉

Graphics card manufacturers: listen up, that graphics card you bought just a few months ago is already outdated. Never mind that it could be full speed, but we artificially gimped it in hardware and software to sell more units. Responsibility to handle the trash you say? Lol, that'd cost money! Let your government ship them to a third-world country and dump it in a slum.
Btw, we're sustainable, and don't you forget it!

appliance manufacturers: Repairability is for chumps. We need those fat stacks! The day your warranty ends, your device breaks 😘 Planned obsolesce baby! Buy a new appliance you bloody consumer.

IoT manufacturers: Who, us? No, we don't exist. Look over there. Nothing to see here.

And so on and so forth.

• #opensourceAfterDeprecation : you deprecate or stop supporting a device? nice, now release all the source code, designs, and schemata to the public
• #greenTax : a tax is levied for the estimated impact to the environment your device has
• #recycleByDesign : all your devices need to have a planned recycling route and if somebody else has to figure it out, you pay a nice tax

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The laws don't go far enough to protect usability of both the hardware and software. For example, the new EU law about software, only requires smart TVs to have software updates for only 5 years (my own $2k Sony TV only gave me software updates for its AndroidTV for only 2 years! -- these days I don't connect it to the internet at all due to security problems). Who throws a TV every 5 years? IMO, it should ask for 6 years for full updated phones, plus 3 additional years for security updates, computers should go to 12 years, and TVs to 15 years.

Personally, I've been gathering old laptops and towers from friends and family and "upgrade" them with Debian and XFce. As long as they have more than 450 Passmark CPU points, and 2+ GB of RAM, these machines can still serve a purpose. So far, I've repurposed 12 such machines and gave them away back to their owner, my mom, my nieces, and two of my cousins. Even on machines with only 2 GB of RAM, it's enough to run a browser with up to 3 tabs before touching the swap file (Debian/XFce clean-boots to about 800 MBs of RAM). That works just fine for someone like my mom who doesn't even how to open a new tab, or for a young kid researching for school.

I would do the same with old phones too, but most of the models bought here in Greece are cheap Chinese Xiaomi/Huawei/realme phones, so LineageOS doesn't support them. That's the biggest travesty these days, since very few people buy computers now. Think if Google could ask as part of android license that all phones have usb-out for monitors, and all these phones can then be transformed like Samsung's desktop DEX OS. I mean, most phones today have 4+ GB of RAM and 128 GB internal memory, just like an old laptop would. It should be able to transform itself into a desktop OS on demand and extend its life and its purpose.

Don’t look into that recycling either. It’s just arbitrage all the way to the acid vat man.

Wireless earbuds are trash and part of the problem, like wireless mouses. Stop putting irremovable batteries in things that don't need batteries, its basically just planned obselecence on shinier more expensive goods. The last thing I want is to spend money on is good quality audio equipment that has a necessary end of life date due to charge cycles. These days you can scarcely find good headphones that arent wireless.

People living in high-income countries own, on average, 109 EEE devices per capita

What the fuck?!?

Anyone got a non paywalled version of this?

Can we just roll it all up in a big ball and shoot it into space on a rocket? That worked great in Futurama… 😉

Ironically the same stuck up bitches who are always virtue-posting about how green they are, (make damn sure the waiter knows they don't want a straw in their drink, etc.) are the same people who insist on yearly Apple flagship refreshes so they get social affirmation.

I feel like the answer is recycling deposits somehow. I've seen attempts at them here and there, but I guess we haven't quite figured out the details yet. I guess electronics are a bit trickier to set up a deposit system for than pop cans. Even the places that do have electronics deposits, often you have to drive to a special recycling centre out past the airport that's open 3 hours in the middle of the day, only for them to tell you that everything's glued together so they can't really separate out the parts they need and most of it will probably end up just going to the landfill anyway.

But theoretically, if we could get a serious deposit system that allowed for recycling to be profitable and gave manufacturers and incentive for making their stuff easier to take apart and recycling (and hence easier to repair), that would be pretty sweet.

Oh cool another crisis, throw it on the big pile over there

You can read the actual report here:

https://unitar.org/about/news-stories/press/global-e-waste-monitor-2024-electronic-waste-rising-five-times-faster-documented-e-waste-recycling

It’s an interesting topic for sure. And I’m not surprised that E-waste recycling is lagging. It’s easy to buy something, but there’s generally no equally easy way to turn things in as E-waste.

Let’s say I bought a new toaster from Amazon. What do I do with the old one? I can’t exchange it at the door, so I need to make an additional effort to bring it to a special E-waste recycling point. Which many don’t bother to do, as it’s easier to just chuck it in the regular waste bin. And if it’s small enough, we tend to chuck it in a drawer and forget about it. Who here doesn’t have a drawer with like three old phones in it?…

They should just burn all the waste. It works for spacex and starlink.