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[–] Dnn 26 points 2 years ago (5 children)

In addition, Sweden “will actively support efforts to reinvigorate Türkiye’s EU accession process,” the statement said.

There we have it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

Well if it's only talking again then I see no problem. After all the problem the EU has with Turkey still exist and all need to agree with them joining. Good luck getting Greece on board.

So basically Sweden has promised to try to get the process starting again but they will then just run against the same wall of opposition Turkey is already facing. But I guess if Turkey manages to blackmail 26 more states then they can get somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lmao Turkey will never make it to EU. It's just Erdoğan's way of fooling the Turkish people

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I wouldn't say never but he is certainly one of the biggest obstacles to EU membership of his country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe he's not being a shitcunt and thinking of whoever will come in after he hopefully drops dead soon?

It's not at all likely, but one can hope.

[–] DominicHillsun 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I really doubt Turkey would mix well with EU values, both on political and cultural level.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Have you spent much time in Türkiye? The cities of the west really aren’t that different to eastern Europe. Yes, Erdogan does some shit things, lqrgely because pandering to the Islamic hardliners guarantees he’ll stay in power. But let’s not pretend leaders of Christian-majority nations don’t do exactly the same thing. If the people of Türkiye elected a new leader who had the same values as Ataturk, I think you would very quickly find a nation that would be a worth addition to the EU.

[–] DominicHillsun 2 points 2 years ago

In Germany they don't mix well at all. Don't see a reason why it should be different in other parts of Europe. Sweden for example is also having serious political turmoils due to muslim immigrants and the huge cultural differences they bring.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

it sure won't

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Everyone, almost, in the EU want Turkey to accept our values and become more us, and would be happy to support it if it had any chance of succeeding. (For differing values of "our" and "us").

So nothing to see here.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't see how a state with a muslim major population will align with the EU in regards of human rights. Unless Atatürk jumps out of the grave and beats Erdogan to death with a steel chair I can't see how religion and state will sufficiently be separated in Turkey.
We already have a religious hardliner in the EU with Poland and they're already a pain in the ass when it's not about fighting Russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Well, it was sort of the point that there are things we won't accept that Turkey is unlikely to relinquish.

That said apart from maiming baby boys on their penis, Islam works just as well with reasonable modern European values as Christianity.

Ok, ok, just as poorly.

[–] SulaymanF -1 points 2 years ago

Oh come on. Turkey legalized adultery as one of the prerequisites for joining the EU, and despite that and other changes their application was still turned down.

Greece has a state religion and a long history of unfairness to religious minorities and they were still allowed to join the EU. Catholic Ireland didn’t legalize abortion until 2018 but they’ve been an EU member for ages.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Erdogan's negotiating is like haggling at a bazaar in a Turkish holiday resort.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

all muslims are like that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As a Swede, I was really hoping they wouldn't. Fuck :(

[–] Risk 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like it will make any difference lol. It's a sound bite to make Erdogan look victorious for the Turkish population. After all, the only reason Erdogan originally opposed Sweden was to drum up support for the election.

Sweden will say 'Maybe we should reconsider Turkey?'

EU: No.

Sweden: Oh well, guess I tried.

[–] Tar_alcaran 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sweden: "come on, what's keeping you guys from accepting?"

Eu: "Turkey's failure and/or refusal to meet our absolute minimum requirements for membership"

Sweden: "gotcha, well, we did our part!"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you anti Sweden in NATO or anti Turkey in EU? The guys below think the second while on the face of it it sounds like the first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Both, but I meant the former.