Sounds like someone needs psychiatric help.
this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2024
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Sounds like he was getting it. And then the Christianity just drove right through his prefrontal cortex.
Why take any medication, or receive doctor's help, when you've got religion?
Mutherfucker's gonna kill somebody.
And this is why counselors with religious credentials are inherently unqualified to practice the craft of counseling.
Why use oven mitts to take a hot pan out of the oven? Or wear a seatbelt? Might as well just walk off into the wild, naked, and let it ride
They got the prescription wrong, should have been antipsychotics not antidepressants
I have been on antipsychotics before, they are not light drugs. Having a false belief is not psychotic nore is it something that should be treated with medication. Religion isn't a mental illness like psychosis is. I am not trying to defend religion, its a scourge on this planet. But comments like yours are super misinformed and just plain ableism.
This person is literally claiming that a supernatural entity is telling them not to take medication, and that they will obey it so that they can continue hearing the supernatural entity. How does this not qualify for a form of psychosis?
I think you realize when a religious person says God is talking to them they don't literally mean they hear a voice in their head, they are just going off of vibes they feel and attributing that to a higher power.
Having a weird vibe about taking antidepressants and then falsely believing that is God telling you not to do something it isn't psychotic.
How do you tell a person who believes their own thoughts belong to an external entity from another with is literally hallucinating those voices?
A psychologist would not classify religious or spiritual beliefs as a hallucination. They are well within the normal human range of thoughts even if we here think they are not based in anything factual. A religious person is not having any abnormal mental issues when they think god is "talking" to them. In the same way a moving piece of music can cause strong emotions, so can religious ideas or experiences. Praying, sermons, shit like that, it gives them strong emotions and that's why they keep going back. They just experience an emotion or a vibe and they mistakenly think that emotion is being caused by God when in reality you can get the same feeling sitting out in nature or listening to Taylor Swift. It's just a mistake about the cause not a hallucination.
A hallucination is a tangible sensory experience. During a manic episode I had 4 years ago caused by the antidepressants I was on I ended up hearing voices and whispering. I actually thought there was sounds there and I would look for the source of the sounds. It was a tangible sensory malfunction, not just some mistaken belief about normal sensory experiences.
Psychologists are trained to distinguish these sorts of things.
And the problem here is that excessive respect for specific beliefs may lead some people to rest weight to the possibility that someone may really be experiencing hallucinations.
I don't deny that plenty of psychiatric medication is prescribed without solid foundations (both about the patience's situation and the research behind the drug), and sometimes has negative consequences (I've had bad experiences with antidepressants myself), but not all forms of distrust are equally valid, productive or safe. Let's assume that the person at OP genuinely suffered a bad reaction to the drug (personally I think it's likely), even then there are still two possibilities: either A) They did mistake their internal trail of thought with an external voice due to religious interpretation, or B) They are genuinely experiencing hallucinations. If it's A, there's isn't a great issue with ignoring it, they're a fool but there are plenty of fools in the world*. If it's B, they likely have another mental health condition that requires identification and treatment, but excessive respect for irrational beliefs muddles the question. If the immense majority of the people this person interacts with share their beliefs, the chances that they'll confront them when they realize that they're speaking to someone that is not there will heavily diminish.
*You could still argue that someone mistaking their own thoughts with the voice of God can also become a serious trouble if they reach some dangerous belief, such as a form of violent political radicalism, but I assume that schizophrenia is far more likely to be an issue.
My dad still calls anti depressants ‘happy pills’
I mean.. so do I. I also say Im a daily drug user lol
(taking antidepressants daily plus some other meds)
It that a positive, negative or neutral comment?
While I definitely think this is some religious nuttery I also feel like they didn't necessarily make the wrong choice. Or at least the correct choice is not as clear cut as people like to paint when it comes to antidepressants.
Antidepressants are more dangerous than people tend to admit. There has been a growing amount of academic scepticism around their long term effects and efficacy. Dr Mark Horowitz is the person who comes to mind that has been doing that sort of work.
I personally regret very much going on antidepressants, long-term they absolutely made my mental health worse. Prozac gave me a seizure. Effexor gave me multiple manic episodes and long term withdrawal symptoms that were just awful. I started cutting after I was on antidepressants not before them. I am now off them again but I can't undo that damage and trauma.
They may have reached the right choice, but if so, it was definitely for the wrong reason.
yeah I'm not saying the religious crap isn't nutty but it's just run of the mill Christianity, not a mental illness in and of itself that requires medication
Religion isn't a mental illness, as anyone can fall prey to it with the right circumstances. But it is a total thought trap and harmful illusion.
the people in this thread saying the dude should be on antipsychotics seem to be implying it is which I take issue with
I agree
I can hear the lead paint being eaten when I read this
The good lord put me on this earth to suffer so who am I to argue.
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go on lemmy
it's reddit
Sounds like they need anti-psychotics.
All of the pills means all of the Jesus!
As an apostate with Bipolar II, my antidepressants helped me more than the Holy Spirit ever did.
Years of praying and devotion vs one chemical stabiliser, who would win?