Those scooters aren't sustainable. They're generating a shit ton of litter and ewaste, in addition to needing charging constantly. And on a personal note, fuck all these idiots leaving them all over the fucking sidewalk.
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The scooters are fine. It's the rental business model that's shitty.
And the idiots throwing them into the port's water.
If they help to get people out of cars (including electric cars), I see them as a win. Orders of magnitude less impactful than cars.
I think that's a big part of the problem with electrified bikes, scooters and the like. As long as they are used as an alternative to more polluting and less sustainable modes of transport, that can be a win. But if they're used as alternatives to walking or unmotorised modes of transport, they're doing more harm than good. And I'm afraid that's the case more often than not.
Disclaimer: My comment is just a superficial note on the topic and does not represent a qualified in-depth summary.
Yes, indeed. They would be most useful in rural areas, where public transport is not sufficiently present and could therefore replace cars.
But those are the areas, which are not as profitable as cities. There, decent public transport options often exist, which is why they often replace walking and thereby increase emissions.
But that also depends on particular individual factors like the electrification of those public transport modes.
There is some reaearch on this, for example:
https://www.itf-oecd.org/are-e-scooters-good-or-bad-environment
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About the sidewalks, I guess it's an infrastructure problem. They're new so there's no intended place for parking them yet. Brussels recently began turning some car parking places into scooter parking, it's pretty nice!
leaving them all over the fucking sidewalk.
It's why they're also called scatter scooters in some places
From my understanding, they only go for so long after you pay, which is a flaw in the fee-system they're based on.
I'll be honest, if I pay to ride one of those scooters, I get 75% of the way to my destination, and then it just ceases to function until I pay again, I'm just gonna leave it where it stopped. There's no way I'm dragging it along with me.
All valid points, other than needing charging. The amount of electricity they use per km is basically fuck all.
I would assume charging every day wears the batteries out, and those are awful for the environment
Thank you for using the best example of the worst vehicle
Nobody ever thanks the Aztec for anything, it's used to this.
Cyber truck has taken the reins.
The Aztek had among the highest CSI (Customer Satisfaction Index) scores in its class, and won the appellation of "Most Appealing Entry Sport Utility Vehicle" in 2001 from J.D. Power and Associates, an independent consumer survey organization which noted: "The Aztek scores highest or second highest in every APEAL component measure except exterior styling."
Found this on Wikipedia.
JD Power will give you any award you feel like paying for
Lol you should ask someone who has owned one
Walter White liked it
That was to illustrate just how sad his life was
Cmon you're just punching down with the Aztec lol
Well in all fairness everyone can agree that the Pontiac Aztek was the worst looking car ever made.
The Italians be like "tienimi la birra:"
Remember the Schumacher ads for this? Not even he could make this look cool.
Honestly I have always kinda liked how the Multipla looked. Yeah it was funky but it meant to be funky hell it was displayed at MOMA.
The Aztec was trying way too hard it was trying to be cool and outdoors. But all it was was a shity Subaru.
I dunno, the Nissan Juke is really trying to give it a run for its money.
Oh, I can def ride people sustainably, especially when looking perfect 10s. Would recommend.
But yes, this meme so very much!
I like taxes, but my moneys being used on car infrastructure & related expenses are what bothers me the most (my county doesn't spend much ob war stuff).
Hey what did the Aztec do to deserve that? At least make it a Ram 1500, or something 😔
Do horses count as sustainable transit?
But I like my mobile couch :(
Thank you for being not you sustainable modes of transit
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