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If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms.

After the blackout, we will be closely monitoring user behavior on Reddit and guide clients when we can unpause,” said Freddy Dabaghi, managing director at Stagwell-backed Crispin Porter Bogusky, which has asked clients to stop campaigns, depending on their client goals.

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[–] sunspider 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey! I'm keeping this as it's sharing knowledge with new users from Reddit. However, in future please find another community to post this on, because it is not related to the lemmy.world instance specifically.

[–] squid_mcnasty 242 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Honestly, regardless of what happens, I have no plans to go back. Lemmy's been a refreshing breath of fresh air.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same. It's really struck me both how little I miss it and how much I like the communities here. There's a much friendlier vibe.

And for the most part, aside from the bullshit threads where it's encouraged and expected, the comments are a lot more 'high-effort,' which is nice. That's something that I would expect to tend to naturally go down with the lowest common denominator as user count increases, but we'll see.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Yeah, I think the kind of people to drop reddit over this are going to be more my kind of people, if that makes sense.

Conversation seems deeper, less dominated by repeated jokes.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago

I also like it more and more, especially since more communities are popping up and they get more populated.

[–] Kroxx 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It really is, there isn't as much content as reddit and that may or may not change but the lack of people acting like they are better than everyone makes it well worth it. I deleted the app and won't go back

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[–] queermunist 53 points 1 year ago

I wanted to leave for such a long time, but the alternatives weren't active enough.

If enough people stick around, yeah, I'm never going back.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago

I’m really hoping the federated nature will make advertising harder. That’s what really started making Reddit suck.

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[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I love how these articles always frame the strike as "These needy people are mad because Reddit is now charging for something that was free before." Motherfucker, we're mad because the price was unreasonable and they were unwilling to negotiate in good faith. Third party app developers even agreed that charging for API usage was a reasonable thing but they expected the cost to be reasonable, as well.

[–] dojan 39 points 1 year ago

I'm mad because of the slander.

The reason the price is unreasonable is because they're butthurt that OpenAI and other companies have used the API to pull a LOT of text for machine learning datasets. They are sad that they didn't get a slice of that cake.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

On NPR they did interview the Apollo dev at least.

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 1 year ago (12 children)

If I were world dictator I would just make advertising illegal. It's the perfect dictator move. Simple policy that's hard to enforce which will almost certainly have unintended consequences. But God damn do I hate advertising.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Your wish has been granted, all small businesses have gone bankrupt because nobody knows they exist and since the only form of advertising left is undercover guerilla advertising campaigns every post on every platform is secretly an advertisement!

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[–] Texas_Hangover 95 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Around 14 years ago or so, I actually turned off my Adblocker for reddit, because I respected the platform and how it was run. I've never turned off Adblocker for ANY other site before or since. Reddit can get fucked. I'm not going back period.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Imagine after the 3rd party apps are killed!

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even if Reddit does negotiate manageable rates for "non profit" 3rd party apps (lol), wait until Reddit users figure out they still can't access NSFW content except from the Reddit official app and the new Reddit layout. Break out the popcorn.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

redditors around the world pounding their fists on tables

let us jerk, let us jerk!

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I truly never realized how many people used Reddit for porn until this happened

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (7 children)

probably a good 40/50 percent of reddit user use it only for corn lmao

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nebraska and Iowa lust intensifies.

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[–] GhostCowboy76 73 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I personally hope they go bankrupt. I mean I feel bad for the average worker just trying to make a living, but fuck Reddit. Those folks should jump ship while they can and do something better for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

I really like the idea that position if big social networks is not secure, that will make all of them think before making bad decisions.

Facebook is almost dead, at least around me (Meta is not with IG and Wapp), I am now starting to hope that reddit would not recover.

They have been digging this grave for some time now. We should let them go.

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[–] Jessica 72 points 1 year ago (10 children)

A new blackout tracker just dropped on the Discord: https://darktotal.com/

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I cancelled my Reddit premium today. I was hesitant because I was in the $30/yr and didn’t want to get rid of that pricing since it’s $50 now. But I’m liking the fediverse and the quirks that comes with it. Will cancelling make an impact? Probably not. But I’d rather not support them if they’re not going to give me a choice on which app I use.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Earnest question, what did the $30/year get you? I never gave them a penny out of my own pocket, didn't know why I would.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It gave you 700 tokens a month. So you could give out awards to posts. It also removed ads. But I used Apollo and old.reddit(don’t know if ads are placed here) so it didn’t exactly benefit me much.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just moved to Lemmy after staying on Reddit for almost 8 years! Hopefully more people will migrate too :)

Social media should never be centralized and for-profit

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I mean. We're all here. No idea how many people will actually stay, but I hope It's enough. I like the change

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[–] Nobody 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two Wpromote clients canceled two premium, takeover-style campaigns that were supposed to launch this week

"Takeover" campaigns are getting canceled. I wonder which blacked out subs were going to be taken over with ads this week.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait, the advertisers have campaigns to take over subreddits? What?!

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not literally take over a subreddit, takeover advertising campaigns are typically a high-key screen space domination type of advertising. Think of something like a video games news site where the homepage is completely covered in advertising for a new, high budget game. Ads at the top, ads at the bottom, ads in the normally-empty margins, and often a focus on articles about the subject.

How that reflects to Reddit I'd never know, it's likely something that's exclusive to the newer layout that I have no interest in using.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This type of advertising is the death-knell of any site, because at that point you're interacting with an advert with some extra elements rather than a site with ads.

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[–] Nobody 49 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Apparently "premium, takeover-style" campaigns are a thing that reddit sells to its advertisers. TIL The article says that the campaigns will relaunch next week after the delay.

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[–] ZeroDrek 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, even if they were to reverse all the decisions they’ve made, I have no intention or desire to go back to Reddit. Lemmy has been a great replacement and I’m hoping it’ll only improve over time.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

I deleted my Twitter account and haven't been back since blood diamond heir and purchaser, not founder, of Tesla Elon Musk bought it.

I'm done with reddit. I just hope the anti-capitalist subs regenerate here or I'll have to find another place to vent (again, not reddit) in that regard.

I'd love to try to make one, but I'm too busy with wage slave survival to be an attentive mod.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Advertising on the internet has always been pretty awful. I wish it would just stop.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The problem is that they always want more. It's not enough to make money. So the ads and intrusive garbage gets worse and worse until we reach an unusable nightmare.

TV shows have banner ads during the show. Everyone wants to send you notifications. Even cars are starting to have ads on their screens.

It's exhausting.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago

long live lemmy πŸ’™

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is really nice, if the protests start to hurt their bottom line, they are going to be much more inclined to listen. I didn't expect these blackouts to do something.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago

I am/was? A moderator of r/NintendoDE, still backed out, until they take us over or comply with the demands.

Probably we'll be taken over at some point, but I feel like Reddit has lost its place for me, and a large part of the trust that I out there too.

[–] aragon 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit's soul was slowly drained off life. It's better here than going back to Zombieland. That's said, I will grab some popcorn and watch this slow train wreck called future of Reddit.

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[–] art 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine what it would be like if we strike this hard for fair wages.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I officially left reddit. Totally done with it. I remember when the Digg exodus happened. No one thought things would turn out the way it did for Digg. There will always be users on reddit, and who knows, maybe they will use AI to aggregate content to fill the void for those who have left. It's all about the targeted ads in the end; they don't care who submits content, they care about the views.

[–] Hypersapien 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's hard to stay dark when the admins can put admin-friendly mods in charge of subs.

[–] Funwayguy 36 points 1 year ago

They can try but without the moderation tools at the core of the issue, the subs will be inundated with bot spam till it dies. There will never be enough admins with free time to replace all the unpaid moderators let alone their knowledge. Not to mention doing a hostile takeover of subs without any understanding of each community's values will serve only to piss off more people.

Besides cashing out a dying platform, there is no winning for Reddit if they keep this up.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The thing that should scare advertisers the most isn't just the slight dip in revenue, but that those users are moving to ad-free sites. Those impressions are unrecoverable by redistributing spend away from Reddit.

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[–] Tsunami45chan 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Don't forget that in the end of the month and July 1st the third party apps will disappear on reddit. That means more redditors will to like lemmy or squablles etc.

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[–] yankeebobo 30 points 1 year ago

I would love to be a fly on the wall come July. If the advertisers start to pull their spots, the earth may rumble just a tad

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