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[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well, that went in an unexpected direction.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not really though. She was his PA, and that just doesn't work anymore after these kinds of allegations (and for this it doesn't matter if they are true or not)

[โ€“] TheGrandNagus 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah but a company the size of RB, it would've been typical for them to move her to a different but similar role.

Suspension with pay actually makes it sound like either she's taking Horner or the company to court, or they're in the early stages of sacking her and they want to limit her access to others in the company.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Or the other way around, if they think she is the one behind the email to journalists with the whatsapp-pictures.

[โ€“] Don_Beefy 14 points 10 months ago

Reverse uno card for sure.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Retaliation for filing a claim of sexual harassment or inappropriate workplace behavior is not looked upon kindly by courts or arbitrators.

Red Bull just stepped in a pile of shit, the easier option is to just settle, cut a check, and move her to a new department. Give Horner some HR training and issue a statement saying the internal matter has been settled to all parties satisfaction, blah blah blah, and no real story in the media.

Strange decision from a PR management perspective.

[โ€“] Atin 12 points 10 months ago

Seeing as the investigation was resolved in his favour, suspension or even firing seems reasonable in that context.

However, if that leak is honest they will be in the shit. The sticking points for me are;

Was the independent investigator given this material while the investigation was underway?

Were they verified by that investigation?

I frankly don't see such a prestigious firm finding the claim as being unsubstantiated if they had access to them. It would seriously damage their reputation if they did so, which would lead to them losing much more money in the long run than they would get off Red Bull.

[โ€“] HerrVorragend 18 points 10 months ago

More like Christian Horny after reading the kind of messages he allegedly sent.

[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Wow, this is bad. Fuck red bull and Fuck horner. Those messages are certainly real and this is a disgrace to all women.

You would suspend both parties while the issue is resolved/investigated if it were handled properly without intent to punish her.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What messages? I don't see any reporting on what the allegations actually are outside of "inappropriate behavior" and "emails were leaked" but with no context.

[โ€“] june 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hereโ€™s the drive leak that you can check out for yourself. Note, thereโ€™s a blurry and not great quality dick pic in there at the bottom

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OlV2wb51s1WhjLFq0Lsp4inRU60qvdhY

[โ€“] bhmnscmm 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's definitely a finger.

[โ€“] TheGrandNagus 3 points 10 months ago

Looks like the head poking out of a foreskin to me.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I think the point is that what started as friendly banter, continued, even after she asked him to stop. And it got to a point where it was not funny anymore. This was definitely creating a hostile environment, and she loves RB, and wants to be thereโ€ฆitโ€™s unfair that because someone in power set their eyes on her, or is incapable of showing how bad heโ€™s making things for someone who cares about him at a professional level, she now HAS to leave for her own sanity. She shouldnโ€™t have to leave. And this dude should stop.

After seeing this, I get why the Verstappenโ€™s said what they said. This is not fair. And RB is probably more than CH.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

What makes them real? What are you using to determine that they're 100% real and not faked?

[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Is there some kind of playbook they're following?

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Protect Horner at all costs

[โ€“] Rapidcreek 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If there is, it's the wrong one

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago
[โ€“] Everythingispenguins 10 points 10 months ago

Can we get any more Streisand effect? Like every time I hear something about this I feel like I know less. They really need to get in front of this and everything they are doing is the opposite.

[โ€“] gorogorochan 7 points 10 months ago

I believe this is a power play between Horner and Verstappen family at this point. Iโ€™m not defending anything Horner allegedly did, but it clearly isnโ€™t just a workplace harassment caseโ€ฆ