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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by virku to c/selfhosted
 

I have bought my first proper home server and am setting up a full stack of media services on truenas scale after years of doing everything manually. In that regard I have set up jellyfin, sabnzbd and radarr, and the next step is to add jellyserr it seems. But then I stumble across prowlarr and cannot figure out if it is a contender to or a supplement to jellyserr. Can somebody tell me what the difference is, if I should use both if they are complementing each other or which you are using if they are competing?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago

They are two different programs. Prowlarr is an index manager and overserr/jellyserr are requesters.

Indexer pulls a listing of available files from as many indexing services as you add. 1337x, NZBgeek, etc.

Overserr is like a front end for your entire stack. You just tell it what you want media you want and it sends the requests to the stack to figure out.

Overserr talks to -> radar/sonarr talks to -> prowlarr talks to -> sabnzbd/qbit.

[–] Krafting 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Jellyseerr is the front end to download movies, the thing that get shown to you or your users, then it uses radarr and sonnarr to get movies and, radarr and sonnar then get the movie using torrent providers in prowlarr, then they send the torrent to qbittorrent or another bittorrent client.

Also, Jellyseerr is awesome when all of this is working perfectly!

theyre not contenders, they all work in unisson! even tho you can skip using Jellyseerr and get your movies on sonarr or radarr, but their UI is crap and confusing tbh...

[–] virku 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I have radarr working fine in combination with sabnzb (i am on usenet instead of torrenting). What does prowlarr do in between them?

[–] roofuskit 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The other person is wrong. Your Usenet indexers will work on prowlarr. The most important feature that Prowlarr has that gets overlooked is that it will sync your indexers into the other arr programs like radarr sonarr, lidarr, etc... automatically. You make a change on prowlarr it syncs to them all. It's the ideal solution for managing indexers all in one place.

[–] virku 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Thanks! So prowlarr is the only place my indexers should be configured. And sonarr and radarr should only be configured with downloaders?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you're only intend to use Radarr you can set your NZB indexer there and your downloader.

If you plan to add more arr later like Sonarr you can use Prowlarr and just link it, and not have to configure your indexers again in Sonarr.

Honestly if you're using nzb you'll only really need the nzb indexer so it shouldn't be all that hard to set up in other programmes

[–] virku 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I will be using sonarr and maybe others as well. I have set it up now. I liked prowlarr a lot. I have a language specific torrent site I have added to it and it seems like prowlarr is the only place I can select exactly which language to download.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I thought you could set that up in the "Profiles" option.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah. Once you add indexer to prowlar it will be visible in radarr as well (also sonarr, lidarr, etc).

Jelyseerr is amazing GUI that you can use to grab media instead of logging in to radarr or sonarr.

I recommend both!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If you are only using usenet then prowlarr will do nothing. Prowlarr aggregates torrent indexers and searches them for your request

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

That is not correct. Prowlarr also searches Newznab-compatible providers (i.e. most nzb-indexers).

[–] virku 1 points 8 months ago

Ah thanks! I have a specialist (Norwegian language) torrent site I couln't get working in radarr. I have to give prowlarr a go then!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Prowlarr and Jellyseerr are two tools you use together.

Prowlarr is an index manager, for Radarr and Sonarr. With Radarr and Sonarr, generally you'd have to provide individual indexes (in the case of torrents, trackers) for each individual instance of Radarr and Sonarr. With Prowlarr, you basically have a central database of trackers, organized by tags (like movies or TV shows), that will then feed that information to Radarr and Sonarr.

Jellyseerr is like the requesting interface. If you want to watch a show or movie, you place a request with Jellyseerr, that gets sent over to Radarr or Sonarr, and then either instance will then search for the content using the indexes provided by Prowlarr. Radarr or Sonarr will then begin the download, and then organize it within your media files.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I never heard of those tools, but I have a jellyfin server. By "support" for jellyfin, does that mean it has like a plugin or something to request media from within jellyfin?

[–] virku 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I haven't set up jellyserr yet, so I haven't seen it in action yet, but if it works the way I understand it should, it is that when media is downloaded it is automatically updated into your jellyfin server.

See the reply by @zewm@[email protected]. Jellyserr is the gui where you search for the media. It then sends radarr/sonarr/... the request which works along prowlarr to download the usenet or torrent file and makes your usenet/torrent client download it. When the download is complete it is moved to the correct place, renamed by your rules etc and inserted into your media server.

Radarr is for movies, Sonarr is for shows, you have one for audiobooks, one for music, comics etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Gotcha. In that case I've already set that all up in sonarr/radarr directly, using shared docker volumes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or you could not publicly break the law

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Sometimes I smoke weed in my garden.

Gasp

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Beware of radarr, if you remove a library there it clears all files without warning! (That's why I came back to manual. Setup was a hassle, and having to come to a backup was the last drop in my glass)

[–] virku 1 points 8 months ago

I saw a post about that earlier. Wasn't there a setting somewhere where you could define if it should delete unmonitored files or not?