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[–] [email protected] 48 points 8 months ago

Some of the kids are in fact not all right

[–] JJROKCZ 23 points 8 months ago

lol we aren’t going to name them but they’re 16, twins, and their initiales are x and y. They did all the narrowing down needed for everyone to know without breaking the law and I love it

[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago

Do not doxx yourself

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Are these the idiots that were also kicking in doors of homes owned by black families?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

why can a school accomplish what a supreme court can not ?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Obviously this sucks, but it's also quite interesting. They call themselves American Banderites. Banderites were far right Ukrainian nationalists, but since WW2 the term has mainly been used by Soviet propaganda and by the Putin regime:

In propaganda the term has been used by Soviets after 1942 as a pejorative term for Ukrainians, especially western Ukrainians, or Ukrainian speakers; under Vladimir Putin-ruled Russia the term was used by state media as a pejorative for Euromaidan activists and Ukrainians who support sovereignty from Russia ... Today, in Russian propaganda, the word is used to refer to all in Ukraine who back the idea of sovereignty from Russia; Ukrainian nationalist collaboration with Nazi Germany is also emphasized

This is why Ukrainians sometimes call themselves Judeo-Banderites, as a joke about how many Jewish people support the supposedly Nazi regime in Kiev and its Jewish president. Obviously, Ukraine does have a far right, but they're incredibly marginalised:

Ukraine does have a far-right movement, and its armed defenders include the Azov battalion, a far-right nationalist militia group. But no democratic country is free of far-right nationalist groups, including the United States. In the 2019 election, the Ukrainian far right was humiliated, receiving only 2% of the vote.

This was a bit of a tangent, but it sounds like these kids may have been influenced by Russian propaganda. Certainly interesting how the far right is divided over Ukraine, with some supporting Russia and some supporting Ukraine, despite the whole Jewish president and relatively pro-LGBT thing.

[–] LordOfLocksley 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Why does their insignia have Russian at the bottom? Based on my basic understand of Russian, and what can be seen, it looks to be a (literal) translation of American Banderite Network

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hmm Russia and far-right neo-nazis groups across the globe?

What an odd combination, who could ever imagine why they might be linked.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Not sure, but it is very likely Obama's fault. Also Hillary's. /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

Its probably Ukrainian. Their name is in reference to a Ukrainian nationalist group.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

The Banderites were Ukrainian fascists who collaborated with the Nazis in killing Jews and Poles. (Also, the script is called Cyrillic, not Russian. Just as English's script is called Latin.)

[–] Evotech 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Interesting choice to reveal their initials

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"For the sake of privacy let's call her Lisa S... No that's too obvious, let's say L. Simpson."

[–] extant 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In legal documents juveniles are aways referred to be initials, so they're just mimicking that. It is shocking that a news outlet didn't just report the entire names though since they aren't legally obligated to protect it like the court is, as long as it's obtained legally. It's just really bad practice since most kids eventually mature and move on from stuff like this when given the right environments.

[–] Evotech 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I see. The courts over here don't reveal names untill the sentence is passed. Unless you are a person of public interest

[–] extant 2 points 8 months ago

That sounds like a much better way of doing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Scary! I’m so glad the school did the right thing here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am actually confused on how this could happen, and why people would join?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago
[–] morphballganon 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where does it say they were expelled?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Right there in the title! Duh!

Kidding. I searched and the only reference I saw was a posting on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago