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So I've realized that in conversations I'll use traditional terms for men as general terms for all genders, both singularly and for groups. I always mean it well, but I've been thinking that it's not as inclusive to women/trans people.

For example I would say:

"What's up guys?" "How's it going man?" "Good job, my dude!” etc.

Replacing these terms with person, people, etc sounds awkward. Y'all works but sounds very southern US (nowhere near where I am located) so it sounds out of place.

So what are some better options?

Edit: thanks for all the answers peoples, I appreciate the honest ones and some of the funny ones.

The simplest approach is to just drop the usage of guys, man, etc. Folks for groups and mate for singular appeal to me when I do want to add one in between friends.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

"Mate" is always a good option, I wish it's used more universally in the States, too.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

"Gentels and Ladymenβ€œ

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] mipadaitu 10 points 10 months ago

What's poppin primatesβ€½β€½β€½

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just omit the unnecessary words or use their name. That works OK, although I'm awful with names so usually it just becomes "Good job!" or "What's up?".

Funny story time: in English I find this is not so bad. In French it's worse. In Vietnamese it's awful. We have dozens of pronouns. They're not only mostly gendered, but contain information about their age and perceived status relative to you. It's a 3-dimensional matrix where the axes are approximately gender, age/hierarchy, and degree of relation (inlaws/blood relations/strangers). You even get a different word for yourself in some of these situations. Then sometimes there's a numerical rank inside each pronoun e.g. male uncle, my spouse's family, 3rd oldest.

The language is already at maximum pronoun burden. Honestly it would just be easier if we called each other 'human' or 'comrade' or 'citizen' or something equally encompassing. It's exhausting as a non-native speaker (and you are not ever allowed to use their names, that's considered super rude).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

My go-to is folks, but 1000 others have mentioned that already. So I will throw in "people".

"Hey people, how's it going?"

That works for me

[–] feedum_sneedson 10 points 10 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Folks for groups and friend for individuals is my go to. Comrade if you want to be spicy

[–] Davidvanb 9 points 10 months ago
[–] plantedworld 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've started using "hello chums"

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

"What's up dog turds?"

"How's it hanging, dingleberry?"

"Nice job, Captain Hazelwood!"

I do actually know someone who speaks like this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

all friends everyone folks peeps team

If you're only addressing one person then it can be left off entirely.

[–] Mojo 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] StupidBrotherInLaw 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Whenever there's any question, I usually open with "sup, dogs" in my most serious voice, then continue to deadpan refer to everyone as dog, such as "and you, dog, I need to check the grist mill, thank you dog". Fifteen years in and no complaints so far.

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[–] braxy29 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i find myself using "friend" a lot lately. dunno if that's a great replacement.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

I'm not your buddy, guy!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

What's up carbon based earthlings.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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