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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by FireTower to c/forgottenweapons
 

These mittens would be used to handle machine gun barrels while changing from an overheated barrel for a new one during prolonged firing.

These particular ones were to be used with the American m1919a6 .30 caliber machine gun.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic 70 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Asbestos is such an amazing material that of course it had to also be one of the most toxic.

[–] LowtierComputer 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I was tempted to nitpick and say it's not toxic, just carcinogenic, but Miriam-Webster does define toxic as harmful.

[–] Everythingispenguins 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And really only a problem if you breathe it. Quit breathing and you don't have to worry

[–] LowtierComputer 7 points 9 months ago

Haha yeah. I've used asbestos gloves. They're incredible.

I've also used asbestos brake pads. Not incredible.

[–] thechadwick 3 points 9 months ago

So true. In many aspects

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you consume enough asbestos is absolutely is toxic

[–] LowtierComputer 2 points 9 months ago

Well sure, but that's true for anything.

[–] Agent641 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I know right? It must have seemed like a miracle material. You can make fireproof fabrics and blankets, insulation bats, brake pads, ceramic tiles, roofing, even sheet rock for buildings. Its durable, UV safe, water resistant, pest-resistent, rot-resistent and machine workable. It doesnt require any complex chemistry to synthesise, you can just dig it right out of the ground.

And its toxicity is so insidious. It doesnt kill or even make you sick right away. Not the next year even, like silicosis. No, the bastard waits 25-35 years, and then drowns you in your own self-destructing lung tissue.

Such a legendary yet cursed material.

[–] Dettweiler42 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Asbestos mittens are still a part of standard commercial aircraft emergency equipment, by the way.

Saw a pilot put them on once during a walk-around on a particularly cold morning in CVG.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

Saw a pilot put them on once during a walk-around on a particularly cold morning in CVG.

Ah, the great emergency of being slightly chilly.

[–] CptEnder 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Hypothetically could you just wear latex under gloves and just be very careful about handling and cleaning yourself after use?

[–] Dettweiler42 14 points 9 months ago

The danger comes more from inhalation of particles that break off. The asbestos fire gloves contain the asbestos laced fabric sheathed inside cloth material to help contain the particles. They're also considered consumable, because handling something on fire will likely destroy the outer fabric (for example, a lithium battery powered device combusting, and placing it into a fire-safe bag).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fibers can still break off while using them, and you can still inhale them.

[–] CptEnder 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Interesting why not just use Nomex instead then? I guess they're a lot more expensive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

They're only almost-as-good. Nomex is great against fire, but it melts around 250 C, which asbestos (being basically a rock) doesn't. I'm guessing that if you're in a big metal tube surrounded by metal parts that you may need to touch for a while, 250 degrees C is not all that high.

Interestingly, with how tightly asbestos is regulated nowadays, it's not really all that cheap. Assuming you don't buy them directly from kazachstan, asbestos gear is pretty expensive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It still gets hot with the gloves on. I wouldn't want latex melting onto my hands

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you mean pure latex gloves, you should be fine. Latex starts to melt at 180 degrees Celsius. Meaning that if the gloves are melting, your hands would have been fucked with or without the Latex.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I wasn't aware of that. Good to know. Now a days I think latex free gloves are more common but I also don't know the melting point of those

[–] FollyDolly 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So if I'm going to glove slap somebody to start a dual, I should use these and take a few health points off first.

[–] 13esq 5 points 9 months ago

Usually takes twenty years for asbestosis to set in, but if your not in a rush to start the duel, , ,