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Fox News reported on some new presidential rankings, which purportedly show Barack Obama as the #6 president in U.S. history and Donald Trump dead last, and MAGA was not happy.

Fox News on Sunday posted an article about the new rankings by the Presidential Greatness Project, which Fox describes as "a group of self-styled experts." It states that Abraham "Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey."

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"Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five," according to the report. "Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Pierce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41."

The report states that Obama and Joe Biden "ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans."

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[–] hamid 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Yeah, no on this sorry this article is bullshit... Trump is a bad guy and was a bad president but Andrew Jackson ordered the Trail of Tears and forced over a hundred thousand people to walk into desert concentration camps.

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[–] Clbull 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

This is absolutely unprecedented for Fox News to publish. Normally they're praising the Republican Party so hard that you could see their political bias from space. Has Hell frozen over or is this some kind of editorial fuck-up that's going to make heads roll?

Imagine admitting that Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States, was the sixth-best president in US history.

[–] 5too 8 points 9 months ago

They're reporting on the results of someone else's survey; so they can protest indignantly.

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[–] nutsack 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

why in the unholy shitting fuck is MAGA considered a person

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

even Republican participants in the survey viewed him [Trump] as being among the five worst presidents

and yet republicants are still lining-up to lovingly change his diaper and vote for him.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump is #1.... In felonies.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

These results are interesting, though the article does note that the overall results seem to map along party lines for mote contemporary presdients (with notable exceptions, like Clinton.) In case anyone wonders, the polling pool was:

"...current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association ... as well as scholars who had recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."

So, not a general survey in case anyone wonders.

Edit: I do wonder how balanced this survey was, though... if Obama was 6th and 15h and Biden was 13th among Democrats and 30th among Republicans, and nonetheless 14th overall, it does suggest that the poll was heavily skewed toward Democratic respondents. Nothing wrong with that, just food for thought.

[–] mipadaitu 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wait, so you're saying the scholars... the people who actually study things and know what they are talking about... skew towards a favorable view of democratic policies??? That's weird, must be a conspiracy.

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