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What can you get to within a 15-minute walk of your house?

A recent YouGov survey asked Americans what they think they should be able to get to within a 15-minute walk of their house.

Of these choices, I can currently walk to all of them from my apartment, aside from a university (no biggie, I'm not currently studying, although there is a Tafe within walking distance), a hospital, and a sports arena.

How many can you get to with a 15 minute walk from your house?

#fuckcars #walkability #urbanism #UrbanPlanning @fuck_cars #walking

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[–] wolfpack86 12 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I have all of this in a 15 minute walk of my apartment. The key thing, if people would like all of this very close by is they will need many fold more apartment buildings.

That's the thing people aren't willing to accept in the US.

Also who tf really needs the post office that close by, these days? Makes me think this was an older crowd that was polled.

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[–] kerrigan778 10 points 9 months ago

The fact that only 68% of respondents say a bus stop should be within a 15 minute walk of your house and only 32% say a bar says a lot about the SEC and age of the sample pool.

[–] gedaliyah 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Do people really use the post office or bank that often? If I'm walking into either of those, odds are something has gone catastrophically wrong that day.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

I live in a city of about 3/4 of million people, just shy of it. Winnipeg Manitoba Canada.

I can walk to every one of those other than a university and sports arena (pro football or hockey, minor community center within ten), within twenty minutes. The movie theater is probably twenty away, everything else is accessible within 15 pretty easy.

It's possible but you gotta get into one of those post war community type places that hasn't been turned over yet..

[–] ansiz 9 points 9 months ago

Living in a rural town, I just wish I had sidewalks. I could probably walk to a local hospital within 15 minutes. 30 minutes would get me a lot of stuff on that list but there are zero sidewalks for any of that.

[–] Leviathan 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Montreal, I'm a 10 minute walk from the Olympic stadium, so I think I technically have all of those things except a shopping mall within 15 minutes walk. That said, I have everything I might need from a shopping mall within 15 minutes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

That said, I have everything I might need from a shopping mall within 15 minutes.

Obviously if you have everything you need from shopping mall within walking distance shopping mall is unlikely to appear. Shopping mall is sympthom of bad city.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I'm actually surprised that my area of Wisconsin has the majority of these within a 15 minute walk. Bar included, of course. It makes me appreciate my neighborhood more.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars Aw, c'mon! You have to have at least one pub or something to call it a neighbourhood. Sheesh!

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

I lived in the suburbs once that required a 1 hour bike ride just to get to the nearest bus stop. That place was miserable

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The fact that it's called a gas station rather than convenience store on a survey about walking is somewhat disappointing.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@ajsadauskas @fuck_cars
Why should I *walk* to a *gas station*?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (8 children)

As someone else said: snacks.

If you have a 24/7 kiosk in your area, that's even better though.

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[–] Hellstormy 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Everything where I live (Austrian city), except for the hospital. That would be 20min.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Replace the walking with bicycling and that would be everything (the Netherlands, so cycling is the default mode of transportation), except the mall, we don’t do malls.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Why less people want daycare in walking distance than restaraunt? Even less than fucking gas station.

And who are those 32% who don't want bus stop in 15-minute walk? Or why? Maybe they don't want it so far away and want it in 3-minute walk? If so, then I agree with them.

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[–] doingless 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

As an American you could ask me what should be in a 15 minute neighborhood and I'd answer things but I can't walk off of my street without taking my life in my hands. The only thing I can walk to is my neighbors' houses.

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[–] smackjack 7 points 9 months ago

An auto repair place is something that people don't think about. It's great being able to drop off your car and walk your ass home and then wait for them to call you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I knew I was pretty far away from anything. Just checked on maps and I'm 1 hour from the closest business walking. It's a dog kennel. Another 20 minutes I can be at a cafe, same story if I go in the other direction, about 1 hour and 20 to a small market. Roughly 5 miles. Biking would be a out 25 minutes, maybe faster if I hustle. Driving is just minutes. No bus or train nearby at all. ( There used to be a train that ran through my neighborhood about 100 years ago). I live in northeast US

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[–] qx128 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Why the fuck is “school” so far from the top of the list 🙄?

Also, if the whole point is the place being walkable, gas station shouldn’t even make the list.

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[–] n0m4n 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I live in a city of 1/2 million and have not even one of these within a 15-minute walk. Some, I could not care less such as bars, but a grocery store, gym, and park would be nice.

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[–] nifty 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (11 children)

My 15-min walk list:

  1. restaurants/bars/cafes
  2. grocery store
  3. ~~some kind of tech store, like Microcenter but smaller with less items because you wouldn’t want a big ass Microcenter near you~~ game/hobby store (trading cards, figurines etc.)
  4. a park/open air theater or amphitheater
  5. gym options (Pilates, yoga, weights etc)
  6. pharmacy
  7. day care
  8. some clothing stores
  9. hairdresser/barber/nails
  10. bus/train stop

I sincerely disagree that post offices and banks have to be within walking distance when we have mailboxes and online banking. Also, I’d like to be able to drive my car out with ease to get to other cities or states if needed. I assume 15min city urban planning accounts for the desire to long distance travel at will.

I am also not sure it’s a good idea to have schools because schools are kinda big and require lots of parking space.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

American schools are big. There is no need for a huge stadium, and definitely no need for a lot of parking, especially considering that it sits empty most of the time. Schools on my home country are smaller, and we have more of them, and they have zero parking. Even the expensive private schools didn't have any parking spots, the idea seems weird. Frankly American schools appear to intentionally waste space and aren't integrated into their surroundings.

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[–] tty5 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I can't reach any of the above in 15 minutes. In fact I can't reach anything in 15 minutes as it takes me 5 to just reach the gate - very rural middle of nowhere, population 50, with a single road and some street lamps as the infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like something you should think about when trying to "get away from it all".

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