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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Biden really doesn't want these Muslim votes it seems.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] WhatAmLemmy 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Politicians don't run the US. Corporations do. The reason US funding continues is because the military industrial complex is making bank — stealing billions of dollars from the people to genocide brown people is win-win for the sociopath oligarchs that own these corporations.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

He knows they have no choice. If its not him, it would be Trump. Since people in Gaza have little money, Trump wouldnt care if IDF wipe them out

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

That's true but that's not stopping Muslims (particularly in Michigan) from running dropping Biden, or even voting for Trump, campaigns. The idea is to show Biden that they're not all talk, but either way his reaction tells us he doesn't "know" anything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that's only like 1% if not less. Not that voting is an effective vehicle change on its own anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Muslim votes are what can prevent him from winning states like Michigan. Percentage of the popular vote doesn't matter, the electoral college does.

[–] filister -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Not defending Biden, but seriously if you were a Muslim voter would you rather vote for Trump then? I can only assume he isn't very popular with those voters either, so they are left with very little choice and not voting for Biden is more or less the same as voting for Trump.

[–] mlg 8 points 7 months ago

Maybe

Imran Khan was "coincidentally" able to gain a majority in Pakistan after 20 years trying with his party. He wasn't perfect, but he targeted a lot of corruption and revamped the economy by convincing big companies to enter and expand business there, especially in the tech sector.

He had decent relations with the USA because Imran Khan met Trump several times long before he became president, probably due to his status as a cricket captain.

Then Trump got replaced for handling covid like a [insert favorite insult], and magically Imran Khan and the USA became cold again just like Obama. Biden outright refused to talk to IK and kept sending his defence secretary to demand US bases in Pakistan while leaving Afghanistan.

Then the moment IK showed a hint of resistance, they told the army to get rid of him or face consequences. Now he's sitting in jail, banned from being shown or mentioned on TV, banned from direct internet access, and banned from having his party run in elections. Oh and several of his party members are dead, hundreds if not thousands tortured, and internet cuts with police deployments whenever his supporters try to rally together.

Naturally the economy self destructed, every corrupt politician came back since they're in bed with the army, and elections were unconstitutionallly delayed for an entire year (and just happened 2 weeks ago).

So a Muslim nation of 231 million suffered because the USA loves "spreading democracy" by approving coups and getting people killed all because they dared to have sovereignty.

Except magically it only happened under Biden and not Trump.

So yes. There is a pretty good chance Muslims will vote for Trump.

[–] filister 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Just a hypothetical question but how many Palestinians have to die for the US to vote to support a ceasefire? Or how many more war crimes Israel has to commit to stop them sending weapons.

The US should realise that sending them weapons empowers Israel and gives them the sense of impunity that no matter what they do they will always get a pass.

No one should be higher than basic humanitarian and international laws and with this war we clearly are showing our double standards.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The United States is completely aware of the atrocities being committed and no amount of additional war crimes will change its position.

Its interests in the region that it views as necessary to maintaining its global hegemonic power are viewed as more important than any action by an allied actor even to the extent of what a decently large portion of its populace deems genocide.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

@filister all of them.

The US showed its double standards way back when it passed a law authorising itself to use military force against the international criminal courts if we ever tried to hold an American accountable for war crimes or crimes against humanity.

But yeah I think what's happening right now is a very powerful reminder of that, and isn't being lost on the rest of the world.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think our trash leadership care more about the footprint of the land than the feet of the people on that land. They kill our people off when they consider us as in the way as well, unfortunately.

[–] filister 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think your trash leadership cares more about oil than human lives and call me conspiracy theorists, but weren't they discovered a significant natural gas reserves in Gaza, which Israel either doesn't want for Palestine to start working on or either want to take completely over. And making Gaza inhabitable and pushing Palestinians to Sinai might as well be part of their plan to do exactly that, using Hamas' attack as an excuse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I actually don't know but wouldn't put it past any conclusion. I hate how trapped we all are to these goons.

[–] yamanii 17 points 7 months ago

Why wouldn't the country that sells the most weapons do this? They have everything to gain from more wars.

[–] notannpc 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Time to send the US representatives families to Gaza I guess.

[–] agitatedpotato 8 points 7 months ago

We'd have better luck bringing Gaza to them.

[–] HootinNHollerin 1 points 7 months ago

What a disgrace

[–] Potatofish -3 points 7 months ago

Losing Muslim votes is not an argument. There are twice as many Jews in the US. I would bet that he even gains some Muslim voters.