There are two kinds of datacenter admins, those who aren’t using VMWare, and those who are migrating away from VMWare.
this post was submitted on 12 Feb 2024
262 points (99.2% liked)
Selfhosted
40704 readers
449 users here now
A place to share alternatives to popular online services that can be self-hosted without giving up privacy or locking you into a service you don't control.
Rules:
-
Be civil: we're here to support and learn from one another. Insults won't be tolerated. Flame wars are frowned upon.
-
No spam posting.
-
Posts have to be centered around self-hosting. There are other communities for discussing hardware or home computing. If it's not obvious why your post topic revolves around selfhosting, please include details to make it clear.
-
Don't duplicate the full text of your blog or github here. Just post the link for folks to click.
-
Submission headline should match the article title (don’t cherry-pick information from the title to fit your agenda).
-
No trolling.
Resources:
- selfh.st Newsletter and index of selfhosted software and apps
- awesome-selfhosted software
- awesome-sysadmin resources
- Self-Hosted Podcast from Jupiter Broadcasting
Any issues on the community? Report it using the report flag.
Questions? DM the mods!
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Regrettably, there is currently no substitute product offered.
I really don't think you regret a God damn thing broadcom.
If you're already running windows, hyper-v. theres proxmox, and tons of others. So they are mistaken. 🤣
load more comments
(9 replies)
RIP VMware.
Broadcom prefers to milk the top 500 customers with unreasonable fees rather than bother with the rest of the world. They know that nobody with a brain would intentionally start a new datacenter with VMware solutions
Not anymore, thats for damn sure.
load more comments
(2 replies)
Well dang, I guess that "learn about proxmox" line on my to-do list just moved a little higher. For the most part, I've enjoyed using ESXi and am sad to see it go.
FWIW, I run proxmox at home, and I friggin love it. It's really not hard at all.
load more comments
(11 replies)
Along with the termination of perpetual licensing, Broadcom has also decided to discontinue the Free ESXi Hypervisor, marking it as EOGA (End of General Availability).
Wiktionary: Adjective perpetual (not comparable) Lasting forever, or for an indefinitely long time.
Hello ProxMox here I come!
They're terminating in the sense that they won't sell it anymore. They're not breaking the licensing they've already sold (mostly, there was some fuckery with activating licensing they sold through third parties)
Sort of. The activation license will work as long as you have it. They won't renew support though, which effectively kills it when the support contract runs out.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(16 replies)
Really glad I made the transition from ESXi to Docker containers about a year ago. Easier to manage too and lighter on resources. Plus upgrades are a breeze. Should have done that years ago...
I need full on segregated machines sometimes though. I've got stuff that only runs in Win98 or XP (old radio programming software).
Might be time to look into Proxmox. There's a fun weekend project for you!
load more comments
(15 replies)
Do you work for a railroad? That sounds too familiar.
Lol no, just old radios. My point is just that my requirements are pretty widely varied.
load more comments
(2 replies)
I agree with the other poster; you should look into proxmox. I migrated from ESXi to proxmox 7-8 years ago or so, and honestly its been WAY better than ESXi. The migration process was pretty easy too, i was able to bring over the images from ESXi and load them directly into proxmox.
If you're running a basic linux install you can use KVM for some VMs. Or use Proxmox for a good ESXi replacement.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(3 replies)
The most important thing for everyone to remember is that if you don't fully own the thing such that you can install and run it without asking permission, or if it isn't simply free and open source, then it can go away at any time.
XCP-ng or Proxmox if you need a bare metal hypervisor. Both open source, powerful, mature, and have large communities with lots of helpful documentation.
I think you can migrate ESXi VMs directly to XCP-ng. I have moved onto it about 6 months ago and it has been solid. Steep learning curve, but really great once you get the hang of it, and enterprise grade if you need stuff like HA clustering and complex virtual networking solutions.
I managed to migrate all mine to libvirt when I dumped esxi. They dropped support for the old opteron I was running at the time, so I couldn't upgrade to v7. Welp, Fedora Server does just as well and I've been moving the VM hosted services into containers anyway.
Ofc... well, we'll see what IBM does with RedHat. Probably something like this eventually. They simply can't help themselves.
Oh no!
Anyway...
Been on Proxmox for a couple of years and it's been great.
Yay... Capitalism...
This was totally expected, even before BCM bought them. This is the same thing we had with CentOS/ReadHat and that will happen with Docker/DockerHub and all the people that moved from CentOS to Ubuntu.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Sucks but not surprising. Broadcom has a history of doing things like this, ugh. Even with their paid products they jack up the price so much that the only customers that stick around are the business enterprise types that are locked in & can't easily migrate for various reasons.
I'm shocked I tell you; simply shocked...
Bummer. Oh well, good thing I’m learning proxmox eh.
I wonder what's the future of vmware player
Not bright...
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| ESXi | VMWare virtual machine hypervisor |
| HA | Home Assistant automation software |
| ~ | High Availability |
| LTS | Long Term Support software version |
| LXC | Linux Containers |
| NAS | Network-Attached Storage |
| Plex | Brand of media server package |
| RPi | Raspberry Pi brand of SBC |
| SBC | Single-Board Computer |
| ZFS | Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity |
8 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 4 acronyms.
[Thread #506 for this sub, first seen 12th Feb 2024, 20:15] [FAQ] [Full list] [Contact] [Source code]
Hopefully everyone migrated.
view more: next ›