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No I’m not catastrophising.

The world is slowly lurching towards a fully fascist led America, India, Hungary, Russia, Netherlands, Germany, Italy and Argentina.

Instead people are either ignorant or blaming “wokeism”* for their problems.

I have no clue what to do and this is literally a car crash in slow motion.

I’m despondent because I’m going to be crushed under the boot when the time comes and my morals get in the way of my survival instinct.

Humans are repeating the mistakes of the past. It’s just so anxiety inducing.

*Woke is a useless term promulgated by fascists to dog whistle the things they really want to hate - feminism, socialism, LGBTQIA+, immigration, brown/black people, equality and diversity.

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[-] MrJameGumb 115 points 2 weeks ago

I hate to say this but I've honestly just gotten used to the idea at this point. I've been watching the people around me howling in support of fascism since about 2015 now and the more egregious these politicians crimes become the louder these idiots seem to howl for them. It's been going so long that it's just part of the background noise of day to day life now, and I'm tired of caring anymore. It's fucking depressing.

[-] Daft_ish 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

How can we convince people now is the time to act? What more information do we need? I think most people are clinging to the idea everything is business as usual. As long as they can keep the lights on they wouldn't want to upset the stability they've managed to make for themselves.

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[-] Vinny_93 90 points 2 weeks ago

I understand how you might feel this way. But a key difference to the early 1930s is that there are many large-scale protests against far right extremism in Germany. The elections in the Netherlands did produce a right wing tendency, but there is no government as of yet and the PVV is still pretty far away from fascism. The other three large winners of the election are not even that right wing. At least no more than the party that ruled for the last 15 years.

That said, I do kinda hope that this phase passes quickly and that people will start to finally get along and care about our fellow humans. Even though we never have.

[-] [email protected] 61 points 2 weeks ago

The protests in germany give me hope that the german public finally resists against fascism instead of just letting it happen and then saying "there's nothing that could have been done" afterwards

[-] Serinus 19 points 2 weeks ago

I expect the US will hold out for at least the next 4.5 years. After that, no promises.

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[-] [email protected] 75 points 2 weeks ago

Well, at least that will take your mind off global warming. Which is good since we have already hit 1.5°C of warming.

[-] Mog_fanatic 46 points 2 weeks ago

1.5 and we're just getting started! Let's goooooo! It's incredible what humans can do when we work together 🔥👏🏻🔥👏🏻🔥

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[-] Pippin 70 points 2 weeks ago

I'm only 18 and I'm already so fucking tired of existing in this world, seems like everything is going downhill and I'm just gonna be forced to live in an authoritarian dictatorship world where all the air is full of toxins and the water is full of plastic

[-] shneancy 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hate thinking so negatively about the future but the more the world seems to crumble around me the more I feel like we might be one of the last generations of humans that got to experience civilisation for a long time.

The planet is dying, fascism is spreading, the tensions are rising, and everyone has nukes! woo! future!

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[-] [email protected] 58 points 2 weeks ago

Woke is a hijacked term by the facists it literally means to be socially aware of the problems faced by different people in a society

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[-] [email protected] 53 points 2 weeks ago

It worries me too and I've been thinking a lot about margaritas, I've been sober for four years so its troubling thoughts of alcohol are creeping back in. I don't know what else to say. Need a hug?

[-] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago

Need a hug?

Wish I could give one

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[-] fastandcurious 51 points 2 weeks ago

Anything I have learned from history classes is that this cycle of fascism/dictatorship and democracy has always been going on, people are dumb -> they choose fascists -> fascist gonna fasc -> ppl get fed up -> uprising/protests -> government overthrown after tons of bloodshed -> some sort of constitutional bind on rulers/elections -> some peace -> dumb ppl forget everything and chose fascists again -> repeat

[-] [email protected] 32 points 2 weeks ago

I think you forgot the part where capitalism makes peoples life worse and worse, while at the same time conservative media blames the left for it, even if they are the cause.

Because in the End people dont vote for fascists because its funny, but because they believe they can get them out of a shitty situation (Fascism doesnt do that obviously, but people get blinded by propaganda).

We wouldnt have this issue today if politicians werent all neoliberal and actually cared about poor people.

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[-] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago

I have hope for Germany. The past few weeks we had enormous protests(over 3m people protested in total) and multiple petitions against fascists and the AfD(the party that literally want to deportate everyone who isn't "German"(this means even if you have a German passport, but came from another country youre going to get deportated)) had blown up. Their youth organisation is now officially a right wing extremists organisation. I still have hope, that we may save our country before it's to late.

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[-] [email protected] 49 points 2 weeks ago

Just to give you a bit of a morale boost: every generation thinks they're the last ans that everything is about to go to shit. In the end that never really happens.

Yes, a lot of right wing politicians have beek elected, also all previous ones have failed and got kicked out. For the Netherlands I predict the government will fall within a year as it typically tends to do when the leaders fuck up and this guy will likely fuck up soon enough.

Basically, this too shall pass.

Climate change is indeed a big cloud mainly because it will take centuries to fix even if we're going to fully dedicate ourselves to fixing it, which right now we are not. On the other end I finally hear about actual progress with fusion which, if true, may be the key to solving climate change within a century, solving it to acceptable levels within decades, if the will is there.

Point is: things look bleak, but they always do. Back during the cold war it literally was same shit, different day. Yet, the world moved forward and things slowly improved.

Things will be fine, you will be fine.

[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

Your take on climate change makes me more worried. Sure, I will probably be fine, but how many innocent people around the world will die until we've done enough to see the climate improving?

How horrible is the world going to be to inhabit if the Gulf Stream collapses? Or other major climate disruptions occur?

I don't doubt the human race will survive, but why do we have to experience the pain before committing to fixing the problem?

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[-] lethargic_lemming 27 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks, I guess part of being an adult is just being more and more indifferent to the gradual decline of the world so that the crippling dread does not consume you.

Explains why my parents are still asking for grandkids.

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[-] superduperenigma 24 points 2 weeks ago

Things often get a whole lot worse before they get better. People thought things were on the brink of turning to shit in the 1930s, and then we had a world war for 6 years. Tens of millions of people died, countless more were displaced, cities were leveled, and history was lost.

I admire your optimism, but I can't ignore that the world and even my country specifically look more and more like a powder keg with every passing day. I'm terrified that we can't get to "fine" again without first suffering through an extremely dangerous period of time, and there's no guarantee that any of us will be "fine" during that time.

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[-] [email protected] 46 points 2 weeks ago

I suggest target practice, that way you won't get crushed by boots....and you can resist any fascist in your area, and encourage others in your immediate area to do the same.

Start a club, and then you can hold parties, where you show each other new knowledge, and help others to protect themselves....and fight against all the fascist hordes!

[-] PopOfAfrica 44 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't Red Dawn. People will quickly find out how inadequate they are against a military.

[-] psycho_driver 24 points 2 weeks ago

When real conflict begins domestically it will be drones being used by those in power. Guns won't do much good.

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[-] Attack0fthenerd 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

John Brown gun club or Socialist Rifle Association are out there... also there are plenty of paramilitary and social fascist groups to protect yourself against. Proud boys, border nutjobs, don't listen to naysayers about learning to defend yourself. It's not just military with tanks and planes. It's your back the blue neighbor you have to worry about...

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

May i present to you:

the antifacist handbook, free to download/read (in different formats like pdf/epub/html/plaintext):

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/mark-bray-antifa-the-antifascist-handbook

The Andifacist handbook

[-] Custoslibera 25 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for this, reading now.

I’ve also been busy reading the history of the rise of the Nazi party particularly the SA.

It’s scary (scary is not a strong enough word for the combined emotions of frustration, anger, fear, anxiety) how close current USA events are replicating the original rise of Nazi Germany.

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 weeks ago

We'll see how it shakes out this year, but here are some positive thoughts...

2017 was the high watermark for facism's popularity in the US. They couldn't help themselves and went masks off in Charlottesville, and their movement has never recovered.

Facism's rise is always reactionary to rising socialism. If the rural petite bougausie and the New York Times are pushing for facism then that's because they are worried workers are gaining power and will come to take what they have. They're worried we are getting organized and winning victories.

Conservatives are currently extremely demoralized. Go check out their boards and discords. I've never seen them this universally depressed. Then don't think they can win and they aren't excited at the prospect of trying only to fail.

[-] Custoslibera 20 points 2 weeks ago

Hmmmm I also frequent white supremacist sympathising discord and my general take away is that they are more desperate and more willing to take violent action to align reality with their views.

Of course this is only anecdotal so it’s kind of a moot point.

I’d be more confident in your opinion if there wasn’t a prevailing view that America will reelect Trump.

If trump isn’t elected it may not even stop fascism though.

Hitler was jailed before he rose to power, trump could very easily do the same. If I’m going to be optimistic about anything it’s the fact that Trump is very old and may not survive prison or the presidency for an extended period.

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[-] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago

Organize. The old world is dying, the new world is yet to be born. We are standing at a tipping point not only regarding climate change, but also regarding the future of humanity. It is up to us, how we act and how the new world will look like.

And even if we loose: Its harder to deport and/or kill you, if a bunch of other people got your back.

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[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago

No I'm not catastrophising.

2024 is going to be the beginning of the end of us all

Yeah, I don't know about that.

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[-] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Maybe we can still win against these fascist assholes

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[-] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

I think it sucks when you are forced to save the environment but the rich don't have to change their lifestyle at all. They should be the first to have to change since they affect the environment a lot more.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

I don't even have the energy to keep resisting the endless flow of bullshit anymore. It gets worse from day to day. What bothers me the most is that it's gotten so bad that i turned apathetic to it. If someone starts spewing right wing bullshit i just zone out until they finished. In the end I won't be directly affected by a right wing leadership in my country but i still can't stand the idea. All the progress we have made in the last few years in terms of equality would just go to waste

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

I won’t be directly affected by a right wing leadership

Well, you know that famous quote where in the end there’s no one to fight for you when they come for you?

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

We're been living in an oligarchy since the mid 1970s, we've had a surveillance state since 2001 and the US government has been allowed to indefinitely detain people since whatever the year was when Obama signed the NDAA into law.

Our democracy was stolen long ago.

[-] BluesF 26 points 2 weeks ago

The UK won't be far behind. Our left leaning party is likely to get in at the next election, but the overton window has shifted faaaar in the past 10-15 years and today's labour may just be yesterday's Tories. Who's to say what tomorrow's Tories will be...

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

Remember, the second amendment is for everybody, not just MAGA chuds. :)

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

This isn't even a car crash brother it's like watching 8 separate trains collide

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[-] psycho_driver 21 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Much of it is a function of late stage capitalism and climate change. We know we can't change so we know we are doomed. The moral contract of society is completely broken.

My plan is to build a boat that is powered by solar panels. Generate enough electricity to move around the world and have power for making water, heat, cooking, air condition, my PC battle station, some greenhouse areas. Be able to build, maintain and repair everything myself and have enough spares to last until EOL. Just exit society, become an island and watch the nukes go off from the ocean. Welcome to [email protected]

Probably humanity will muddle through somehow and after much genocide we'll learn.

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[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago

You can add France in your list.

Our next leader will probably be a fascist, and the root cause is (to some degrees) our current government.

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[-] Candelestine 19 points 2 weeks ago

Don't underestimate the backlash. The big, mellower, center segment of the population that is generally more chill isn't in favor of fascist idiots.

Just, do what you can to help maintain motivation in the face of the fascist fear-train. Fear is their #1 tool, it's the emotion that underpins their whole worldview. Control is simply a response to that fear. Without that underlying current of fear, though, how do they get people to grant them control?

[-] grue 39 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Don’t underestimate the backlash.

Don't overestimate it, either. Only about 1/3 of Germans were NAZIs even at the height of its popularity, but that didn't stop Hitler from being a dictator.

Resistance takes work, not just hope that reasonable people will somehow prevail just because they're the majority.

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