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"Protesters who wear masks could face arrest, up to a month in jail and a £1,000 fine under proposed measures that human rights campaigners claim are pandering to “culture war nonsense”.

Police in England and Wales will be given the power to arrest people if they are wearing face coverings at specific demonstrations, the Home Office has said."

Been a bad 18 months or so for privacy in the UK. Online Safety Bill passed, the right to take strike action curtailed, people in receipt of benefits (including disabled people) will soon (as from 2025) have their bank accounts open to the government, the right to protest curtailed and now this.

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[–] [email protected] 179 points 8 months ago (3 children)

This is just the first step at making protests illegal.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago

The first step? They've been on this path for years

[–] Resol 54 points 8 months ago

I think you mean the ninety first step.

[–] [email protected] 148 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I see no hope for this country. Things are just getting worse and worse every year, how long can this keep going?

It’s pretty bad now, but I seriously worry what things will be like in 20 or so years.

[–] Coreidan 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

Tories on a any% speed run to the government from Children of Men, while the left is worried about which way Kier decides to lean that afternoon

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 8 months ago (21 children)

Hmm...I wonder which political spectrum the current government belongs to...

[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck the Tories right, but I also don't see Starmer opposing any of this.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Starmer is like like 1 cm left of rishi

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

A μm at best.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Exactly.. (leaving both firmly on the right)

Vote none, and start organising (in your work place, in your community, in your own home inspiring your kids). If you still can't see that the system is designed by the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful, you're not paying any real attention (precisely why the media keeps society constantly looking at anything but how things are really run).

We need to abolish the establishments keeping us down, not continue to play their game by their rules and wonder why things never change..

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I hate kier but not voting for Labour would be stupid, protest votes or non votes don't count any the only people pushing that idiocy are the rich right wing because they don't want you to vote against them

Everyone just thinks 'oh look these people are too dumb, busy, or disconnected to vote oh well'

You can still resist and work against a system you voted for,

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[–] z00s 98 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Remember remember the fifth of November,

When Guy Fawkes took the fall.

Be sure to wear your mask from now on,

They can't arrest us all

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Was just setting up my viewing for the rest of the evening, and ironically enough, it's on tonight! 9pm on Quest (and again on Quest +1) .

So at 9 I'll be watching the last episode of Miners' Strike 1984: The Battle for Britain, then V for Vendetta at 10.. Good inspirational viewing.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 8 months ago (4 children)

So if someone doesn't want to get sick for being in a huge crowd, they get arrested? Truly genius.

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Oi you got a loicence for that mask?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago

I do but ye cant see mi face on the loicence photo anyways

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[–] Skullgrid 72 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Fake beards, wigs , sunglasses and presumably face paint should be ok

Stay safe protestors. Leave id and phone at home, don't hold anything that could be interpreted as a weapon, and carry a "your rights" card to help you remember what to do if the police try to take away your freedom.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago
  1. Don't talk to Police

  2. Don't talk to police

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It looks like this would apply to any item used to conceal one's identity. So, it's possible that all of those things could be included.

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[–] Dran_Arcana 64 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's like they think V for Vendetta was a blueprint for how to run a utopia.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Man its like the UK is an authoritarian shit hole or something. Y'all need weapons and resistance. And no, I'm not American before someone asks.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is the UK turning into a dictatorship or an undeveloped country ? How is independent press doing over there ?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (6 children)

More like fascist-adjacent. And we started the process of underdeveloping ourselves when the fascist-adjacent leaders persuaded the terminally ignorant that Brexit would be great when it was obvious it was going to lead exactly where it is leading right now.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago

dictatorship or an undeveloped country

Right-Wing Government: why not both?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think it's important to relate the latter part to the former - beyond the privacy issues with not being allowed to wear masks (and having our bank accounts invaded), there is also the health aspect, and disallowing masks is one sure fire way to keep disabled people from assembling, since, you know, we don't want to get covid, being significantly more likely to die from it (not necessarily because of the illness, but because our lives are deemed less worth saving).

The lack of any mask mandates already excludes disabled people from so many public spaces, this is just another way to keep us (as well as others, you know, first they came for..) from fighting back. as they strip us of every last human right.

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[–] TengoDosVacas 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is an admittance that you have no right to protest.

What are.you going to do about it?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You've got to understand the 'average' British psyche at this point in history. The majority simply don't care that people they see as troublemakers and/or scroungers are having their rights dismantled. They lack the empathy to give a shit for these people and they lack the foresight to see that it'll be their rights gone one day too. What stirs the average british gammon off their collective arses these days is the rumour there might be an immigrant in a hotel somewhere or that a drag queen exists.

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[–] some_designer_dude 22 points 8 months ago

Prote—ahhh nearly got me!

[–] erranto 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I have never seen a cucked nation like the UK in the world before. u guys have no resistance what so ever ! the french should have bought you some freedoms a few centuries ago.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

It's not even that - the people this is directly affecting (for now) are the people who, if they raise their head above the parapet, it'll get shot off - the people least able to protest. 95% of the country are not lacking resistance, they're lacking empathy and foresight. They show plenty of resistance to media driven culture war bullshit like immigration and LGBTQIA+ issues.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

But they already made protest illegal.

[–] Mango 26 points 7 months ago

They need the facial recognition software to do it's thing so they can make sure life gets difficult for anyone conscious of their actions.

[–] Anticorp 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

V for Vendetta wants their timeline back.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

it will be interesting to see if we ever get to a point during the next inevitable global pandemic where masks are compulsory in some places and illegal in others

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fuck this country. I'm moving out.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Well that should put us back on track as a nation, practical solutions for our modern problems. What a relief.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (8 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

Does it apply to FFP2 respirators?

[–] Tikiporch 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What if you're feeling unwell?

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