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Percentage Of Female Managers At Nintendo Hasn't Improved, Despite Pledges (www.nintendolife.com)

submitted 1 year ago by thorbot to c/nintendo

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According to Nintendo's annual report published earlier this week, only 4.2% of company managers in Japan are women. This is a number that has remained unchanged since 2021, when the company formed its 'Nintendo Women and Allies' initiative, pledging to "promote women’s careers"

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[+] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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[+] thorbot -7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That's not an excuse though. If you state publicy as a company that you will make changes, then it's not unreasonable to expect those changes to actually happen.

[–] avapa 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Japanese society is very old-fashioned, male dominated, hierarchical and “I’m older than you so that means I’m right”. Japan’s cybersecurity minister admitted a couple of years ago that he had never used a computer in his life. While I understand the frustration it is (unfortunately) not surprising that these changes do not happen in a timely fashion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Japan’s cybersecurity minister admitted a couple of years ago that he had never used a computer in his life.

Then he has never been the victim of a cyber-attack!

[–] Grangle1 2 points 1 year ago

This is especially true when it comes to traditional gender roles in the workplace. Women in Japan are often only hired as secretaries or "office ladies" in big companies, basically to shuffle papers and serve tea. Not exactly big decision-making roles. Heck, even making an announcement is likely a big thing in this regard for a Japanese company, if they actually follow through they could really be seen as progressive by Japanese standards.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah but when it comes to corporations saying they'll do things, its almost always just whatever garbage will benefit the company at the time, regardless of the fact they likely will never follow through.

I think the lesson is that you should never believe these statements about the future, the only times major corporations can be honest is if they're reporting something that already happened.

[–] thorbot -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not really about believing them or not. It's more just bringing attention to their bs

[–] c0mbatbag3l 4 points 1 year ago

The changes occur in the hiring practices, but when the average time an employee works for a company is as high as it is in Japan you're looking at a decade or so to see the numbers move significantly.

Sorry firing half of the managers wasn't their move? Lol

[–] De_Narm 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think its fair to look at the overall percentage. Instead, we should look into how many new managers got appointed and how many of these were woman. If that remains unchanged too, then it's fair to complain.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did a quick google and found a Japanese study that said the average tenure for an employee in Japan is 11 years.

op it's going to take time for anyone to leave.

[–] KuroJ 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly this. When I lived in Japan I worked with some employees that have literally been in that same position longer than I've been alive (men and women).

It's going to be a while.

[–] Dark_Blade 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s literally been 2 years, and as others have said, they’re not gonna start firing people or creating positions just to boost some numbers on a spreadsheet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

they definitely could but I would hope they are not because that would be tampering with the whole metric which just makes it meaningless and fuels haters

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it seems weird to pass over the top ranking candidate for a job (male or female) to fulfil a quota.

[–] Zarxrax 5 points 1 year ago

There are usually several people who are all similarly qualified for a position. People often get chosen for arbitrary reasons like being friends with the person doing the hiring.

[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle 4 points 1 year ago

Racism and misogyny will not be tolerated. Everyone else is civil but we had a few reports in this thread.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ok, ok fine, I'll do it.