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I like these types of lists because there's always a recency bias. The 7th Doctor was ranked the best in the 90s but now he's viewed much less favorably. I hated the 12th at first and now he's one of my favorites.

Anyway here's Wonderwall

Best - 4th I mean obviously who else could it be?

10th/14th Yes I am combining them

3rd Criminally underrated

12th I absolutely love how 12 is more of a scientist

11th For his first two seasons at least

9th My first Doctor

5th I like the celery bit

1st Bitter old man, it works

15th Too soon to call it but so far so good

2nd Almost as good as the 1st

13th I think Jodie did the best she could with the horrendous writing she was given

7th No strong feelings on him

6th Other than his jacket I remember nothing about him

Worst - 8th That movie was hot garbage I'm not sorry, I don't count his cameos

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m still working my way through Classic. Of what I’ve seen:

  • Worst: Eccleston. I liked him a lot, but we just got too little of him.
  • Hartnell: There were aspects I liked and his epics were super cool, but he’s just too far from the character and spends half his run being a dick.
  • Capaldi: His highs were some of the best of the show, but I found some of his episodes tedious, and his grouchy persona felt like s chore to get through.
  • Gatwa: I like him a lot so far, and expect him to move up as he goes.
  • Whittaker: I really liked her charisma. Definitely the most optimistic Doctor I’ve seen so far (though Gatwa is catching up.)
  • Troughton: He jumps from Hartnell’s grandpa character to a goofy alien and nails it.
  • Tenant: No surprise here, he defined the modern era.
  • Best: Matt Smith: Feels truly alien, great mixture of funny and serious, and I love his timey wimey plots. Plus, bowties are cool.
[–] derphurr -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Imagine posting to a who forum and not only leaving Baker out of list of best Doctors, but not having him at the top. This has to be the funniest thing I've read in a week.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Did you miss my first line? I’m only on Season 6 of Classic. I’ve heard good things about Baker, but I don’t have enough info to rate him yet.

[–] mercano 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are two Bakers, Tom (4, with the long scarf) and Colin (6, with the multicolor dreamcoat).

Tom is a fan favorite. He holds the record for most episodes & seasons as the Doctor, though they were only half an hour then, and NuWho has muddied the definition of seasons with all the specials.

Colin has a more mixed reception. The show’s management was a bit of a mess when he was on the air, and his character was written as brash. His Doctor’s reception has improved with later audio stories.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

For old timers like myself, Tom Baker was our first Doctor. He's the bar by which all others are judged by us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Oh i'm about to get downright hilarious:

Four was my first, and i don't like him.

[–] GoodandPlenty 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
  1. Tom Baker - The most “alien” of Doctor’s and also my first growing up, so I’m more than a little biased.

  2. Troughton - Whimsical and delightful while still embodying that alien spirit. It’s unfortunate so many of his serials are lost to time.

  3. Pertwee - Brought a lot of action to the role as well as a gruff persona which acted as an extension to Hartnell’s.

  4. Tennant - Best of the new Who Doctor’s by a wide margin and could arguably surpass Baker as the actor most synonymous with the role.

  5. Hartnell - I love his angry old man persona but there’s a lot of whimsy and mischievousness behind it as well.

  6. McCoy - I didn’t like him a lot at first but upon revisiting the show I love his mind games and willingness to do whatever it takes to succeed.

  7. Capaldi - One of the best actor’s (from an objective standpoint) to tackle the role and I generally appreciated his entire run.

  8. Davison - Another great actor that brought a nicely rounded, “human” element to an alien character.

  9. Smith - Not as huge a fan of his run as some, but he’s definitely a solid addition to the show’s history and has some solid moments.

  10. Eccleston - He was great, but his run was too short to really cement him any higher on this list.

  11. Whittaker - She was great, but the writing really let her down.

  12. Colin Baker - He was great, but the show had no idea what it wanted to be. His Big Finish stuff is excellent.

13T. Gatwa/McGann - Sample size is too small.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Okay, I stayed off this because I know I'll always change my mind about the order within 15 minutes of posting. But I've had a drink and I thoroughly convinced myself that I can pull off a master list.

I very much picked and chose which Doctors count for me personally, so don't @ me about the Shalka Doctor. And although I love what we've seen of Ncuti Gatwa, I'm leaving 15 off for now. So far he'd be well high up though!

Best to worst (and bear in mind, even the worst Doctor ain't hay):

  1. Eleven — No apologies, he was my first and he will always have a special place in my heart. Or hearts. Amy is the best ever, fight me! And the extended Ponds, including River, makes for an amazingly timely wimey run. Also, now you know how subjective this is going to be.

  2. Second — despite how little is preserved of his run, I genuinely love Patrick Troughton's portrayal. Especially coming after Hartnell, that's gutsy as heck. His chemistry with Jamie is comedy gold, and the animations never live up to their line deliveries!

  3. Four — yeah, recency bias perhaps because Tom turned 90 recently. He made such an impact in the role, and his era had legitimate top tier banger episodes. Come on, he was the Doctor that Douglas Adams wrote for! Even now I waffle if he belongs further up, but on any given day he's in the top three.

  4. Twelve — Capaldi had a bumpy start, but I will go to bat that any episode with Missy validates all of the misses (pardon the pun). He frigging channels previous incarnations at times, driven by his masterful acting and deep knowledge of the character from a fan's perspective. And that last season with Bill — oh! My stars and garters!

  5. Seven — McCoy lifted the show when it was at its nadir. He pulled the same trick as Troughton in many ways, playing the hobo and the clown, but amping up the sinister sides of the Doctor to show the ancient alien just beneath the surface. What I wouldn't have given to see something like "Lungbarrow" come to the screen!

  6. Fugitive — no, no! Keep reading! We barely know her, much like (on-screen) Seven or Eight, but whatever you think of the Timeless Child thing — Jo Martin owned the role as soon as she cast off that Chameleon arch identity. In my opinion, the mystery surrounding her only adds to the incarnation.

  7. Nine — For all the farting aliens of the 2005 series, Eccleston did a tremendous job reviving the role for a new era (and I don't like using that term for any old actor or producer run, but the revival show was very much A New Era). I love how when he's alien he feels planets moving under his feet, but when he's most human he's a Mancunian working bloke.

  8. Thirteen — I weren't happy with Whitaker's run when I watched it week by week, but binging it after the fact? There are a lot of good to great episodes over those three short seasons (and handful of specials). Also some forgettable to poor, but I always thought Whitaker's work in those was terrific, too. I definitely saw her as a Redemption Doctor that didn't really work out the way she'd hoped.

  9. One — being first is an ungrateful task. Hartnell built the basis of the character, and he contributed a load of character development through his run, too. The grumpy old man from "An unearthly child" who would invent engine damage so his companions would let him explore Skaro — he was largely turned around by the time he regenerated. William Hartnell, I salute you.

  10. Fourteen — for a gimmick Doctor, I think RTD and Tennant pulled off some much needed, constructive character development from Ten to Fourteen. And as long as he stays at Donna's/off the main show for another ten years, I'm fine with the bi-generation — Fourteen needs to chill the F out so we can have the lightning in a bottle that has been Fifteen so far. See below for my issues with Ten.

  11. Five — I always thought Davison's costume mirrored his Doctor's personality quite well. He's the Beige Doctor to me. Now, if I could judge him just by the tenures of Tegan, Nyssa and Adric, he might rank higher. On his own though, it's a hard 10. If only they'd reached "The caves of Androzani" levels sooner.

  12. Ten — definitely a majority win, I never warmed to this incarnation. Tennant is an amazing actor, and he sells the part throughout. Most of his stories are gold, too. It's the writing and the arc of Ten that rubs me the wrong way. He swings hard from carefree adventurer to deeply miserable/mopey and manipulative. All the traits I praise Two and Seven for, but here they feel cartoonist rather than human (or Timelord).

  13. Eight — I usually disregard the audios in favour of an all-onscreen head canon, but Paul McGann has been the Little-seen Doctor That Could under Big Finish. He was a terrific first attempt at reintroducing the Doctor after the show's cancellation, though I think his debut suffered under the production decision to gun down Sylvester McCoy... He maintains the flegmatic manner of Davison or Colin Baker while also being a complete dunce every now and then. And I say that lovingly and as a largely similar personality.

  14. Three — there are several factors that make me dunk Pertwee this far down the list: The whole Liberace velvet wardrobe, his patrician demeanour to terrific companions like Liz, Jo, and Sarah Jane — and that dumb fascination with cars. This Doctor leaned a bit too far into Bond/Avengers gadgetry territory for my taste, probably to find something to occupy himself while he was stuck on earth. So you see, all explainable in the grand scheme of things, just not my cup of tea.

  15. War — John Hurt went at the role with a lot of glee, bless him, and what screen time we got out of the War Doctor was excellent. To me the mystery of his initial reveal was cut short by his actual (and chronologically final) appearance in "Day of the Doctor". John Hurt being John Hurt, and also passing not so long after, I could have still wished for just one more outing to fill in how he lived (with himself) during the Time War, to better understand how he became such a downer at the end.

  16. You guessed it, Six at the bottom again. There was just a lot to dislike from the start. The assault on the eyes for one thing (I mean the costume, not CB's appearance. He was quite fetching in his day 🙂) but also the actual assault on Peri. There was so much going on behind the scenes at the time, I know — as a viewer, I can only judge what I see. I really enjoyed parts of " Trial of a Time Lord”, and I did hope Colin could have had just another series with better stories... and in the black leather jacket he suggested from day one.

So. How did I do? Should I have ranked the Moebius Doctors as well, individually obviously, and the Rebel Flesh and Metacrisis Doctors too? Because you know, that will throw the whole game off.

[–] jordanlund 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

War Doctor? Fugitive Doctor?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm only counting the main Doctors

[–] spittingimage 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No meta crisis doctor either

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I stan the Rebel Flesh Doctor to be secretly injected into the top of all "best of" lists