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[–] [email protected] 55 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I used Opera until they bailed on Presto in 2013. I then switched back to Firefox and I've been using it since.

Just use Firefox or one of its derivatives if you care about the open web. It has real ad blocking (uBlock Origin extension), is fast, and basically all the features you'd expect from a browser. Give it a whirl, you'll probably like it.

[–] ulemmyagain 19 points 9 months ago

hell yeah Firefox!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That'll be easy considering I've been using Firefox for the better part of 2 decades

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you're like me and can remember using netscape before that you should schedule a colonoscopy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I started on Lynx and remember NCSA Mosaic being the big new thing. My colon has seen better days.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Take care of yourself out there, friend. Gotta keep the memories of the forgotten times alive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Don't worry I had my first colonoscopy before I turned a year old

[–] NightAuthor 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I just need someone to implement dragging tags out immediately into windows, with my tiling window manager (fancyzones) I have to pull out the Firefox tab, let go so it’ll spawn the actual window, the drag it again to where I want it.

I tried getting into the weeds of the code, but there’s a lot there, it’s buried behind like 2/3 other standing issues that no one is working on…. For like 10 years

Edit: excuse me, 14 years

[–] BB69 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

As soon as Opera was acquired by the Chinese company, I told everybody to dump it ASAP.

Reddit said I was ignorant and racist because I had “no proof” that the new company was doing something wrong

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I mean, yeah, just leaving it at “china bad” is still xenophobia. Tech companies in the US and other countries can be just as shady.

[–] JackLSauce 34 points 9 months ago

"Chinese bad" is xenophobia

"China = surveillance state" is the most basic of common sense

[–] BB69 8 points 9 months ago

lol it was obvious when a random Chinese company purchased what was going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

dumped it for the same reason. it was never my main browser. firefox+ublock+vpn=awesome

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

why are they promoting Vivaldi alongside Firefox?

Why is Vivaldi a good browser?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s made by a lot of the original Opera team, including the founder. They have some nifty features that either require an addon in Firefox or are unavailable. Tab tiling is the one that I miss almost daily when I’m using Firefox.

They are an innovative group that often pioneers features that eventually trickle down to other browsers. Although it’s based on chromium, it’s an excellent browser that offers better privacy than Chrome. They have done a great job building a browser that caters to power users but can also be configured to use a simplified UI similar to Chrome.

If they had container tabs like Firefox it would be my favorite browser hands down. They have profiles like Chrome that work much better than Firefox profiles, but each profile is a separate window whereas container tabs can be mixed in a single window.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

And Vivaldi for Android is also great. It has an actual tab bar with tabs you can move around, stack on each other etc. (among other things). Totally recommend.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I remember back in high school, this was the browser to have on your flash drive. So many built-in tools that were normally entire separate programs. It had an email client, BitTorrent, download manager, FTP client… all sorts of tools so you didn’t have to keep them all updated and portable separately.

It was a sad day when all of that started getting stripped out just to end up like every other Chromium copy on the market.

Been on Firefox ever since they took away my grid home screen.

Goodbye, my once good friend.🫡

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t trust anything but Firefox or Safari anymore. Every other browser vendor has an ulterior motive to steal your data or serve you ads.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Why are you including Safari in this? It's such a bad browser, doesn't even allow you to hard reload or get debug info on iOS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sure it does, you just open the dev console on your computer.

The criteria for the original comment was not “which is the best browser” but rather “which browsers aren’t adware”. As Apple doesn’t monetise user data the way Google and Microsoft do, it belongs on the short list with Firefox. Is Firefox better? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

If my computer is an Apple Mac, sure. It isn't, so I can't inspect it. Unlike Firefox, where I can inspect it by connecting it to any computer with adb installed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

It still seems to be the only browser on my phone that will reflow the text after I zoom a page. To whoever is about to tell me what I should have already known about that also does that, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Opera has had this functionality for 10+ years on their mobile browser, and I would argue that it has always been their best feature by far as it has always worked beautifully. I just don't understand how no other browser has implemented this feature.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

👌👌👌 Always liked text reflow after zoom very much! !!!

Like it was responsive before responsive was a thing. Behaviour only native to epub afaik.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

AFAIK Opera has some kind of patent for this, so other browsers cannit implement it so easily.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I used it for a while but then one update it completely reset not only all my (many) open tabs, but also my history, so I couldn't restore them. Not used it since..

[–] hal_5700X 4 points 9 months ago

If you went that classic Opera 12 vibe, use Vivaldi. But if you went a good browser get Firefox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

The decline of Opera has prompted von Tetzchner, after a monumental anger, to create Vivaldi, to continue with the original philosophy of ancient Opera. For lovers of the old Opera, the other alternative is the Otter Browser, which also tries to recreate it.

[–] UnculturedSwine 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I tried using opera years ago before they switched to the blink engine. I uninstalled it right after installing it and finding out that it made itself the default browser without asking me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had the same. I installed it and realised that it had imported my Chrome bookmarks. I didn't purposely choose that, so was pretty annoyed, but thought that maybe I'd missed a check box. When I realised that it had made itself my default too, I uninstalled it.

I reinstalled it a while back to try again and to test a website I was making, and after one update I launched it and it played a really loud sound. It was late at night and my kid was in bed in the room above me. Because I wasn't expecting any sound, never mind anything that loud, I panicked and didn't turn the volume down in time.

After I got my kid back to sleep I uninstalled Opera permanently.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Sounds like the controversial choice they made for Eric Andre to scream “Opera GX!” as it loaded.