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[–] NewPerspective 77 points 11 months ago (16 children)

I hope Game Freak sees this as a wake up call. People will kill for a Pokemon game with a little innovation.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why would they? It takes effort to make something innovative. They can make buckets of money by doing nothing. They might make more, but it's going to cost a lot more too.

[–] Renacles 12 points 11 months ago

This game literally cost 6 million though, that's nothing to the Pokemon company.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pokemon Arceus had a little innovation. The thing is: a little innovation after decades of doing the same thing is like a textbook example of "too little, too late".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Also Pokémon Arceus was still empty and boring

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I don't think that GameFreak will see this as a wake up call. And even if it does, it might not do the necessary changes to Pokémon main series.

The stagnation runs deeper. It is partially caused by inertia ("we're selling well, why bother innovating?"), but also by GF's insistence on making the main series story-driven instead of gameplay-driven. Even if story-driven Pokémon goes a lot against the franchise's biggest strength - a wide, unique, and immersive universe to explore.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Except Palworld is insanely popular with essentially no story...

[–] TheQuietCroc 11 points 11 months ago (5 children)

That's the point. Pokemon could be successful in the same way but they're saying Game Freak doesn't want to change how they do things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Omg I'm an idiot, I completely misread what they were saying, I thought they were saying gf needed to focus more on story and the gameplay being stagnant doesn't help. I'll chalk that up to morning brain.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Because it's gameplay-driven.

There's no Rotom bossing you around. No "sit down you player, as we tell you what's supposed to be your story". No unnecessary broken bridges forcing story linearity. The story that you see in this sort of game is the one that you build as you interact with the game, not the one that the developer wants you to watch.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

More importantly: The Pokemon Company is a separate entity from Game Freak and Nintendo, with a third company also participating, Creatures Inc.

Pokemon games exist solely to drive people, especially the current younger generation, into the franchise. Licensed merchandise is THE money printer for them. In 2022, they reported 11.6 billion dollars in revenue just from that. They're at a point where they can literally ask "Why even bother with games?"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Yeah really goes to show just how massive this market is, and how horribly game freak has whiffed here

[–] IndustryStandard 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They're probably finding out all the ways to sue PalWorld in.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty good. there's a little jank but a lot of heart. I was surprised to see that Every pal had battle, working, eating, and petting animations.

[–] thantik 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

There's a glitch where you can tame the bosses too - and even those have animations.

[–] notsorryforpartying 16 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Are you sure it's a glitch?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

I thought that's intentional.

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[–] this_1_is_mine 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

You can butcher any pal........

[–] peopleproblems 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can butcher anything that goes in a pal ball.

The syndicate thug gave me gold and ammo when butchered

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Why would you butcher that cute little fella

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

But at the same time, you do not need to butcher anything. I did find it amusing how the animation for butchering has heavy mosaic censoring though.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

and this doesn't even include any of the GamePass players, right?

The game wouldn't run for me on GamePass, crashes every 15 seconds... so I guess I'll on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think it's only steam.
It runs on steam, i host a server and sometimes got some big old frame drops. Otherwise it runs pretty well for me.

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[–] JustAnotherRando 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I have a minor conspiracy theory about the Game Pass launch: it almost seems like they made the game pass version intentionally worse/buggier. Still had fun gameplay but lacking features that a lot of people want, some odd oversights (e.g. no menu to quit the game in the PC game pass build, have to alt+F4) and more stability issues. That gives people a chance to try it, find out they like the game, learn it's better on steam, and then buy it there.
That's exactly what happened with my entire friend group (we also wanted a Private server for more people and persistent world regardless of who is online, which GP version can't do currently).
Rationally, I recognize that it's probably a matter of the build being different, limitations when running in the Microsoft ecosystem (though other games are about to connect to private servers, even if it's less straightforward) and the GP version is primarily for console (runs on PC as well, but the menu screens feel like console ones). But it certainly didn't hurt their sales that the Steam version was clearly better.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently the GamePass version is like 4 updates behind the Steam version. According the the developer this is because of Microsoft's certification process taking multiple weeks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Lol, that's terrible.

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[–] donescobar 8 points 11 months ago (7 children)

I wonder if it runs good on the steam deck

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

30fps on lows from what I remember seeing others post. Allegedly there is a mod to help performance on Deck, too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Friend of mine joined my server from his steam deck, and was using the deck dock to a 52" TV, said it was running beautifully.

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