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[–] Visikde 5 points 11 months ago

I'm agnostic
There simply isn't enough information to declare with certainty our origins or how it all got set in motion
It's ok for a question to remain a question
There is only one meaningful moral tenet
Don't be a dick
Don't do things to others you wouldn't want to have happen to you
As exemplified by
Stop It You Know Better

For insight into why the Jesus myth exists & the history of the fable
Watch: Marketing the Messiah
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11851846/

[–] Diplomjodler3 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
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[–] BlackNo1 5 points 11 months ago

they love their supply side american jesus

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] mkhopper 3 points 11 months ago

Looks like a guy you would have on a bowling team.

[–] Warjac 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (12 children)

I should hope he was Christian. You trying to say he didn't believe in himself?

Edit: This was a joke. Attempting to make it about his self-esteem.

"I hope Jesus believed in himself, he had a lot going for him, it would be really sad if even though he has being the Son of God and all that going on he has so much self-doubt."

[–] andros_rex 3 points 11 months ago

Most scholarship I’ve read doesn’t seem to think the historical Jesus was presenting himself as the Son of God.

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[–] BB69 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

To be fair, being a Christian (an actual Christian, not what 99% do and using the term to excuse their opinions and actions) means being like Christ.

So Christ had to be a Christian since it means being like him.

Edit: I wanna add that you can be a Christian without following the religion that exists. Being a Christian boils down to being a good person and helping others.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who even uses that definition outside of super niche communities?

So a good person who behaves like Christ but grows up in a rural village and has never heard of Christianity or read the Bible would be a Christian under this definition?

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[–] Clent 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And literally literally means literal except in the vast majority of its usage.

Along the same vein, the majority of Christians are not followers of Christ.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Nah, he was Jewish, he had to be to fulfill the Jewish scriptures he claimed proved he was god. He literally called himself the King of the Jews. Even according to Christians, people didn't invent Christianity until after his zombie corpse died again.

Like, Buddha couldn't have been Buddhist, we based Buddhism on him.

Also, if 99% of the members of a group agree on what membership means, it's the 1% that disagree who aren't really members. Maybe consider changing what you call yourself if it's at odds with 99% of the people calling themselves that.

[–] dejected_warp_core 4 points 11 months ago

I wonder how quickly one would cage and kill the other?

Depends on prep time. Can he go home, braid a whip, and come back to throw down? Bible Jesus would absolutely dominate the match.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It has always hurt my brain that Christ wasn't christian. That he was Jewish but Jews don't believe in christ.

[–] VicentAdultman 5 points 11 months ago

For me it makes sense when you think about philosophers and psychology schools. Lacan didn't considered himself lacanian, but freudian. To almost quote himself "people ask me if I am lacanian, that I leave that for my followers. I consider myself freudian". It is a dynamic of who you followed built their own material with other people material, so having a not christian Christ is not the same as having Christ not believing in himself, but considering the path he went through to build his teachings.

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