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They will deny it. They already making sure to get rid of all journalists and refuse visa for new one.

They're already saying “we had to do it, we’re great”. It'll take some government toppling before that tune changes.

History and how it went is written by the winners not losers. Germany and the US took those stances because of who lost and who won. As long as israel „wins“ (in whatever definition) it will write its history as a winner.

As the rate of Palestinian children killed by Israel to Israelis killed by Hamas surpasses the infamous 10-to-1 of Nazi killings of random villagers in Occupied France in reprisal for German deaths at the hands of the French Resistance, the pro-Israel propagandists are still calling Israeli actions as "defense".

This is quite consistent with the last couple of decades of Israeli propaganda: Palestinians and even Arabs in general are always portrayed as "violent" (not Hamas or Hezbullah being violent, rather the entire etnical group is painted as "violent") and follows the playbook from Goebbels and the one generally used by Fascists (not just Nazis, though in terms of rabid racism, the Nazi kind of Fascism is the closest one to the what's voiced and the acts of the Israeli leadership and their military) were the target etnicity is painted as "violent" and "attacking us", thus justifying mass murder as "defense" or "protecting ourselves".

I expect the history they write will be anchored on that fantasy of "defense", whitewashing the extreme disproportion in deaths -most of which civilians - that would otherwise make it painfully obvious that what's being done is far beyond "defense", beyond even the racist kind of "reprisals" (racist because all Palestinians are made to pay for the acts of the tiny fraction of them which is Hamas) and into "ethnic cleansing" territory.

Betcha there are people already arguing that it can't be genocide if you only kill 1% of the population.

They are using it as an opportunity to carry out the pogrom they always wanted to. It’s clear now that the Hamas attack is exactly what Israel wanted.

It's manufactured. The US government unquestionably supports Israel and doesn't wanna threaten their ~~remote military base~~ relationship, so they act to silence dissidents and quench protests, such as by trying to equate criticism of Israel's government with antisemitism.

Or do majority of people in Palestine actually support HAMAS and the war?

Idk if the majority support Hamas specifically, but most Palestinians support resistance fighters, including Hamas, mostly because peaceful diplomacy with Israel has proven to be impossible.

Is it really a faux-pas? It probably depends on where you live and the people you live amongst. Where I live, it seems like only the extreme right (the successors of the people who helped the nazi's genocide the Jews) + orthodox Jews support Israel unequivocally. Most others don't see it as black and white and still consider Palestinians as humans who need hope and prospects, which they're obviously not getting under Israeli occupation.

The majority of Palestinians in Palestine apparently support Hamas, but it's likely that they would not be supporting Hamas if Israel had been acting in good faith and not been slowly (a lot faster now obviously, but they were going slowly for years) ethnically cleansing them from Palestine. It's kinda a chicken and egg situation.

If Rabin had not been murdered by an extremist israeli in 1995, there might have been peace now in those lands, but instead Israel is now being lead by those extremists and they aren't interested in peace or co-existence.

Coincidentally, there was a recent media event in my country event where a celebrity publicly displayed support for Palestinians.

She had this to say: "Raising a Palestinian flag does NOT mean that I support Hamas or that I hate Jews or that I am okay with innocent civilians - wherever they live - being killed. It means that I want all wars and all genocides to end." https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2024/01/08/laura-tesoro-palestijnse-vlag/

Public reactions (in dutch): https://m.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20240107_96484050 The minister Jan Jambon was in his youth a member of the local fascist party and is pretty vocal that he would like his current (more mainstream) party to collaborate in the future with that fascist party. So that he thinks that it is a "faux-pas" to express support for Palestinians, does not surprise me in the least.

Edited because of grammar.

Off course I'd rather live under, and support the dictator terrorists if my other option was genocidal aparthied nazis who force me to live deprived from all freedoms like a caged animal and regularly get bombed.

Yes Hamas is a bad terrorist dictatorship, but they did not kill 1 in every 100 Gazan, and they are only in power because they live in an open-air prison and regularly get bombed by an occupier controlling their food, water, and electricity and keeping them like caged animal.

I mean it is a fact that Hamas has a lot of support at home. They have won elections. This is because they build schools and deliver services at home, and take a defiant stand against Israel. However this all gets collapsed to “Palestinians support terrorism” by the disingenuous, trusting everyone in Gaza with terrorism. I’m NOT saying this is valid - just pointing out how it comes about.

It's already happening.

That started in 1948

Since no one answered your question. I'll assume you were just curious about the numbers. It's easy enough to answer.

Around 23k civilians in Gaza have been killed by Israel since October 7th. On 9/11 2001, around 2.6k were killed in those attacks. So, around 8.8 “worth” of 9/11s.

Given 94 days since October 7th, it would be a “9/11 amount of civilian casualties” every 10.6 days.

Or perhaps:

A “Hamas October 7th” every 5 days. For over 3 months straight.