You wanna know what to put in place of one of those installed-in-1952 civil war statues they tore down?
Put this. Entitle it "tyranny will bend the backs of the strong. Let freedom ring."
this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
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You’re right; someone should put up a large statue of this guy and his back. Make it visible. With a huge sign explaining who he was and why he looks this way. I’m sure republican supporters would complain, damage it or try to tear it down.
This is what comes to mind when some neonazi whines about preserving confederate statues n' shit because of 'muh heritage!'
They're not wrong that it's our heritage; but it's DEFINITELY not one to be proud of. If we're going to showcase that side of US history (and we should), it should be done similarly to that of the holocaust museum: pull no punches in highlighting the absolute evil of the aggressors, and the suffering of the victims.
When we look at our 'heritage' we should feel shame and disgust so that when current events start to echo that history, we understand the gravity of what's unfolding and make it top priority to stop that shit in its tracks.
That's a lot of states rights on that man's back.
And just think of all the useful skills that guy probably learned!
/s just in case there are any Florida school textbook authors in the thread
You sound like someone who reads a lot of banned books. We’d get along.
Anthropologists confused why many textbooks from the era have /s at the end of long paragraphs.
It's OK, he probably learned some quality life skills from the experience. /s
The Florida State Board of Education’s new standards includes controversial language about how “slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit,”
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is intensifying his efforts to de-emphasize racism in his state’s public school curriculum by arguing that some Black people benefited from being enslaved and defending his state’s new African American history standards that civil rights leaders and scholars say misrepresents centuries of U.S. reality.
“They’re probably going to show that some of the folks that eventually parlayed, you know, being a blacksmith into doing things later in life,” DeSantis said on Friday
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/22/desantis-slavery-curriculum/
Plenty of Americans will tell you the Civil War was about freedom. The question is whose freedom they care about.
Holy fucking shit those are really thick and outward.
Because of the grayscale color it almost looks like a bad weld job and metal just dripped all over. It's so hard coming to terms with just how deep those must have been in order to scar up that much and probably often not just deep
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_(enslaved_man)
In this transcript Peter mentions "salt brine, which Overseer put in my back."[8] This practice, sometimes called salting, was attested in many accounts of slave torture reported over many decades.[16] Other substances, including turpentine, hot-pepper juice, and dripping candle wax, were also used
Jesus fuck. And we let those white supremacist slave torturing fucks walk free.
Reconstruction was too soft and ended too soon.
Andrew Johnson is top three worst presidents
Let's also not let Lincoln get away from this discussion. He absolutely did huge harm to the radical reconstruction movement, although Johnson turned that to 11. He also has an awful record in regards to indigenous peoples. (As has every president)
Yes his name should be repurposed to be defined as rancid rat shit injected in a forehead of a shitty president.
Sherman could only do so much, unfortunately
Five or six months after the scourging...the frightful laceration was partially healed, and only scars remained. But what must the whipping have been to leave such scars! The back looks like a plate of iron, eaten by acids and corroded by rust; or like a walnut-table honey-combed by worms... Bits as big as the hand seem to have been cut out of the flesh. No wonder that, at this distance of time, the man looks thin and ghastly, though he was a strong man, and must be a man of fine physique and presence....This card-photograph should be multiplied by the hundred thousand, and scattered over the states. It tells the story in a way that even Mrs. Stowe cannot approach; because it tells the story to the eye. If seeing is believing—and it is in the immense majority of cases—seeing this card would be equivalent to believing things of the slave states which Northern men and women would move heaven and earth to abolish.
Morbidly fascinating.
I had thought the salt brine was a crude antiseptic, I hadn't realised it was intended to hurt. Perhaps both?
Note that the overseer who did the whipping in this case was terminated by the slaves owner, so while I'm sure this wasn't that uncommon, it wasn't the case for every slave.
As someone who forms keloid scars, I'm pretty sure they're keloids. Keloid formation is more common amongst Africans than Caucasians. I get fairly hefty scars from even mild abrasions, this poor guy got cut deep, plus the bit about salting. I feel guilty if I kill an insect. I can't imagine the depravity of someone who would do something like this.
There are still countries that do this today.
Several countries also do "caning" which can leave similar scars.
This is the word Desantis says was good for black people.
My boomer parents will still say they had a great time working for us. Fuck boomers and silent generation and the generations before that
Thank you for not saying “Greatest”. They were boomers, GI and Silent. “Greatest” is a book title and fellates this group over WW2 and the post-war boom while ignoring everything else they’ve done.
Well I think beating the Great Depression, Hitler , and Tojo at the same time is pretty good, as far as generations go. Also, the Korean War. And many of the Civil Rights Movement leaders were in that generation.
They were calling baby boomers selfish before millennials even existed.
They also fucked up the air, water, and earth for centuries. They put policies in place to hoard as much cash as possible and pulled up the ladder behind them while refusing to acknowledge the damage their policies caused and basically called following generations pussies while holding their heads under water.
Yeah, they beat Hitler and the rest, but those old farts are the same ones who voted in right-wing evangelical politicians, because those are the ones telling the “kids” to shut up, know their place, and suffer.
My parents are/were “greatest”, and they have no problem shitting on current generations, minorities, or “alternative lifestyles” and letting everyone flounder, because they got theirs. My dad served in both WW2 and Korea.
Wanna credit them with killing veterans asking for a bonus in the Bonus Riot? Wanna credit them with forming the American Nazi party? The same generation that ”solved” the Depression is the same generation that started it. American geopolitical fears drove the Korean War. Don’t just cherry pick their victories and ignore the policies and fuckups they did that caused many problems.
You seem confused as to which generation is which. The Greatest Generation is mostly dead. If they're alive, they're not shitting on current generations, they don't even know what "Gen Z" is.
They definitely didn't start the Great Depression or the American Nazis party. The oldest were 30 years old when the Depression started. The youngest were 3. They had no political power and were the first generation to grow up with electronic media (radio) and communications (telephones).
The entire weight of the world was dumped on them as they were just starting out in life. They were just like Millennials. Your parents may have been shit heads but JFK and MLK Jr. were not.
Boomers are the results of GI generation and the Silent Generation. My generations are not confused, I also don't pigeonhole entire generations into tiny boxes and only attribute what fits in that little box to them, which is why I chose multiple facets of the generations between the early 1900s and the world wars. You don't suddenly lose all wins/losses because you were born a minute after midnight on the day the generational names got plopped down. Regardless of any point of the discussion, we should not be calling any group the "greatest", no author seeking to push his book (at the time) to the top of the NYT bestseller list should get the fortune of manipulating generational names to ensure sales.
Next time some shit-for-brains starts going on about "states' rights," show them this picture and remind them it was "rights" to this.
I'm not a believer in any purposeful and vengeful diety/dieties, but should I be wrong, I do hope the sadistic fucks that perpetrated this bullshit on other people found some kind of hell to rot in for eternity. Anyone that continues to defends this behavior can fucking join them.
The fact that this was allowed to happen for CENTURIES... The fact that the Holocaust happened, pretty much tells you there is no God. Or if there is, he certainly doesn't give a shit about us... Or worse yet he's an evil fuck who enjoys torture.... But a loving God? No, that is impossible.
Much like many supposedly "unknowing" German citizens were forced to help clear the dead at the concentration camps, Reconstruction should have also included an "unofficial" system whereby every overseer got whipped just like that by a slave elected from amongst the slaves at their plantation.
Nah, every overseer should have been shot.
IIRC, this also featured in the Ken Burns Civil War documentary. Highly recommended.
Anyone know why the skin heals itself in this way?
Keloid scarring, more common in people of African descent but not exclusive to them. This would have scarred very badly regardless.
It would look slightly less bad if he didn't heal with Keloid scars. Having said that, it's still fucked either way.
Look up keloid