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But is it phone addiction we're experiencing?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Emptiness 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

I know it's just a comic but I still disagree with it's message. Phones are essentially mini-computers connected to the Internet which has the potential for endless dopamine-inducing entertainment and we carry them around with us 24/7. A very powerful dopamine-pump, with us around the clock, every day. This has actually never happened before in history.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

This has actually never happened before in history.

This is what literally all those other people were saying in that comic. That's why each panel had a date.

Books were considered mini-dopamine pumps that could be carried around everywhere, all day and every day. Well, they would've been, if they'd known what dopamine was.

[–] FuglyDuck 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

people have been bitching about how technology will ruin society since the dawn of technology. Which, just for the record, predates modern humans. some neanderthal husband probably complained about his mate using ~~buffalo~~wooly mammoth jumps instead of like, trying to pick a fight with a wooly mammoth.

society changes to adapt to the technology. you can argue if this is a good thing or not, but one thing that is perfectly incontrovertible is that it will not ruin society.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

In high school I had novels in my backpack and spent all my free time reading. Would rush to class early to read more.

It's the same shit at a different scale.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Is there any medical basis for for phones causing infinite dopamine production? The body has finite resources, so I'd imagine you'd eventually run out, get bored, and move on to something else.

Dopamine is also produced when you're around someone you love, but no one says we're dangerously addicted to our loved ones...

I'm not a doctor or anything though.

[–] Toneswirly 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I dont know man... citation fuckin needed.

[–] TheBiscuitLout 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Andrew Huberman is a neurologist who covers this in depth, with citations and references, if you’re actually interested. It’s pretty well established

[–] Toneswirly 9 points 11 months ago

Huberman always struck me as a guy more interested in building a business than public health. After all he hocks supplements just like all the other quacks and "alt" medicine guys. I do not take him seriously.

[–] MindSkipperBro12 -2 points 11 months ago

Source? Source? Source? Do you have a source on that? Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered.

[–] cheese_greater 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] b3an 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How on mobile, iOS? 🙈 I’m using Voyager App

[–] cheese_greater 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Same, you have to

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[–] b3an 1 points 11 months ago

Thank you kind stranger!

[–] FuglyDuck 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is it me or is there a relevant xkcd for basically everything?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago
[–] HipHoboHarold 7 points 11 months ago

While I agree it is an issue, I feel like a lot of it can be fixed with things like third spaces. Particularly ones that don't rely solely on capitalism, since most of us can't afford to buy much. I feel like a lot of my time on the phone is either at work, or when I'm not doing anytbing. But if I'm hanging out with friends, I don't feel anywhere near the same amount of pressure to be on my phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Anecdotally, the people I know who bitch about this sort of thing are usually the people who no one wants to interact with.

I mean, maybe if you weren't a screeching harpy who can't let anyone finish a sentence, you wouldn't find this to be a problem, Noreen. (Noreen is the_worst_.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

it's less "addiction" and more "I want to interact with people but I have crippling social anxiety"