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Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has endorsed President Joe Biden’s reelection campaign, a sign of the president’s strength in uniting his party to have the backing of one of its most liberal members

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[–] Licensed_to_ill 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Man, screw Biden. I would rather vote for AOC

[–] el_cordoba 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ranked voting needs to happen otherwise it will always be democrats vs republicans most of the time.

[–] Licensed_to_ill 11 points 1 year ago

I wish. Ranked voting would be phenomenal. It's obviously more democratic. Makes no sense not to have it. But politicians are dirty corrupt pieces of shit.

[–] whenigrowup356 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think we'd need a parliamentary system to end up with anything more than 2 parties being relevant. The 2 party system is sort of hard-wired into the way the house and Senate work. Ranked choice could have some cool effects on party primaries, though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Also, the two party system can be broken quite easily if any state switches to proportional representation. If a third party wins even a small number of congressional seats, it could make them the kingmaker in a divided house.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Agreed, RCV would essentially mean that the primary is part of the election.

[–] Ab_intra 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this not the case in the US? Sorry for not being up to date on this as I don't live in the US.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The US Constitution specifies that each state must elect a senator and house of representative, must send electors to the Electoral College for President. It does not specify how.

As such, some states have ranked choice voting. Others do not.

[–] Ab_intra 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah I see. It's so weird how it works. Why not federate it so those laws are the same all over? I guess it's a reason for it but in my eyes it sounds very ineffective.

Also the whole electoral college sounds like s bad idea i guess. But it's also a "safe guard" i guess?

Going a bit OT on this one.

[–] neanderthal 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because that would require a constitutional amendment. The GOP would lose the most so not a single red state or GOP senator or congress member would vote for it. Amendments take a 2/3 majority or a constitutional convention, which requires 2/3 of the state governments to agree to it, which is even harder to pull off.

[–] Ab_intra 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks this was very informative!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

When the country was founded they needed to convince the state governments of a bunch of different states to agree to unify as a single nation.

At that time state governments had more power and influence on the federal government than they do today. Senators were picked by the state government, not popularly elected as they are today, and it was left to the state governments to decide how they would conduct elections and select delegates to represent them in the Electoral College which is the actual body that picks the president.

[–] Ab_intra 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I would rather vote for a bird. Yes. Birds should govern the US! Imagine. To all seriousness AOC would have lost by so insanely amounts. Let's hope she and more of the liberal parts of the democratic party gets tractions. Getting young people in those positions would be great.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha, look at this guy thinking birds are real.

[–] SojournerWeaver 1 points 1 year ago

Keep in mind that the more power we give up to conservatives now, the less likely it is that you'll ever have a chance to do that further down the line. Aoc is backing the future of the world right now, but also her political future. The last conservative presidency did a LOT of damage to this country, if only by installing the justices who would go on to overturn Roe V Wade. She doesn't want to see more of that damage, and neither do you.